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Goodbye beta, hello Project Catalog™—now available globally!

gina-herrera
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Gina H Member Since: Aug 10, 2020
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Lena E wrote:

Just recently on this thread Scott shared his experience using Project Catalog successfully in addition to the way he's always used Upwork.

 

The feedback everyone has shared is helpful as we shape Catalog into a better experience, it's not going anywhere, and we will continue to make improvements. 


Unfortunately that was likely not a successful experience - it was a thought with potential on how to use the new feature to accomodate a new approach. He does not have have any jobs that resulted from this thought process yet to my knowledge, both from how he phrased it and from looking at his job history.

No one said it was going anywhere, it's been made blatantly obvious time and time again that this is very much a client-serving platform, and while I understand that they are the ones generating Upwork's income, it definitely is stressful to think that high-paying clients could leave once they see such a Fiverr-esque approach being offered, even if it doesn't apply to them. At the end of the day these are the clients creating the most profit. In addition, "One-stop shop" projects typically do not work for a tool like this - the larger a project becomes and the more skillsets are required from one person, the more chance there is of a scope evolving over time and the client expecting you to bend with their needs for the same price. I don't believe that is the intention here, or if it is, it is being approached completely wrong. You may speak with clients regularly, but that does not change the fact that there is a big problem with top earning freelancers not being heard (or at least, not feeling they are being heard, because we just tend to get a templated response - I can appreciate that you are one of the few that actually takes the time to type out a real thought instead of a robotic reply, so thank you for that) and severely lacking control over their own contracts. I personally think that a successful tool is built to accomodate as many people as fairly as possible, and even just the fact that one cannot deny a project after 24 hours is, quite simply, just plain not fair - to either the client or the freelancer.

browersr
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Scott B Member Since: Nov 20, 2015
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Gina H wrote:

Lena E wrote:

Just recently on this thread Scott shared his experience using Project Catalog successfully in addition to the way he's always used Upwork.

 

The feedback everyone has shared is helpful as we shape Catalog into a better experience, it's not going anywhere, and we will continue to make improvements. 


Unfortunately that was likely not a successful experience - it was a thought with potential on how to use the new feature to accomodate a new approach. He does not have have any jobs that resulted from this thought process yet to my knowledge, both from how he phrased it and from looking at his job history.
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Please do not speak for me on matters you know nothing about. I have had 4 engagements coming from the PC and all were entirely successful for both parties. Really it's 6 as I had two clients who found me via the PC but after a brief discussion we moved it to a "regular" project because they needed more than the pre-packaged time and it did not make sense to buy the same thing over and over.  So my packaged time of 1 hour has resulted in 11 hours of billable consulting with one still ongoing as of the time of this writing. Make of this what you will. 


 

gina-herrera
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Gina H Member Since: Aug 10, 2020
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Scott B wrote:



Please do not speak for me on matters you know nothing about.



**Edited for Community Guidelines** The REASON I said it likely didn't result in anything was because you hadn't mentioned that it had, and I think we can both agree it would have been much more helpful to actually state clearly that it had had results.

Also, to be quite honest I was referring to people who had a positive experience with actual deliverables, as most people are not keen on having consultation clients weigh in with feedback.

gilbert-phyllis
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Phyllis G Member Since: Sep 8, 2016
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Gina H wrote:

Scott B wrote:



Please do not speak for me on matters you know nothing about.



**Edited for Community Guidelines** The REASON I said it likely didn't result in anything was because you hadn't mentioned that it had, and I think we can both agree it would have been much more helpful to actually state clearly that it had had results.

Also, to be quite honest I was referring to people who had a positive experience with actual deliverables, as most people are not keen on having consultation clients weigh in with feedback.


I'm inclined to go on record that I don't read Scott's comment as dramatic in the least, or personally offended. Exasperated, maybe, at seeing someone else misrepresent his experience based on their own assumptions. Furthermore, for some of us on some projects, a consultation is the deliverable. I opened such a contract yesterday. I'm not going to be creating anything specific but rather, helping the clients figure out how to do something. The way Scott has found to use the PC is the only way it could ever work for me, and I'm still cogitating about whether to try it or not. 

gina-herrera
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Gina H Member Since: Aug 10, 2020
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Phyllis G wrote:

Gina H wrote:

Scott B wrote:

I'm inclined to go on record that I don't read Scott's comment as dramatic in the least, or personally offended. Exasperated, maybe, at seeing someone else misrepresent his experience based on their own assumptions. Furthermore, for some of us on some projects, a consultation is the deliverable. I opened such a contract yesterday. I'm not going to be creating anything specific but rather, helping the clients figure out how to do something. The way Scott has found to use the PC is the only way it could ever work for me, and I'm still cogitating about whether to try it or not. 

Perhaps, but I don't think it's fair to be exasperated with me when he was thoroughly unclear, his comment was then cited as a source by an admin as a successful experience, yet there was no evidence that it had even been successful. I misrepresented unintentionally based on the information he provided, so to say "you know nothing about this" feels pretty over the top of a reaction as opposed to an informative correction.

 

Either way, I totally agree - I think we are in similar fields, and a consultation is the only way this could work for me currently, I'm just not sure if I want to do so since it's a very abstract deliverable to leave feedback on.

m_terrazas
Community Guru
Maria T Member Since: Nov 12, 2015
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Lena, I've been looking at a profile with various jobs done through Project Catalog.
Jobs are displayed like any other in the job history.
I think it would be a good idea to highlight them in some way, to make it clear that this work is from PC.
In another portal this is done, the work carried out through PC is shown with the image, title and link of the specific project.
This would draw the customer's attention to those jobs, if he doesn't have a very specific idea of what he wants. If the specific project solves your need, perfect. If you need more, you can always go for a "normal" contract.
Just an idea Smiley Very Happy

3e66c1b5
Active Member
Fajar A Member Since: Jan 27, 2021
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Hello,

 

I saw that some of the services in the catalog project offer scraping data, isn't that illegal?
Because when I list my project it is not approved, even though my data gathering is legally valid because retrieving data via Google Maps is permitted. I took data because I have a valid API Key. Meanwhile, most of the catalog projects illegally retrieve data on websites.

Any solutions?

 

Thanks,
Fajar

aocumen
Moderator
Avery O Moderator Member Since: Nov 23, 2015
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Hi Fajar, 

We apologize for the delay since we waited on another team for more information. Your project has been approved. 

If you see any project that you believe may be violating Upwork or another website's Terms of Service please don't hesitate to report it so that it can be reviewed further.


~ Avery
Upwork
imehmud
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Irfan M Member Since: Aug 8, 2020
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What are the scopes for writers in Project Catalog service? Can they showcase their articles/copywrite ideas as a project?

tinker_bell3
Moderator
Joanne Marie P Moderator Member Since: Nov 26, 2017
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Hi Irfan,

 

You’ll want to make sure your project is attractive to clients and catches their eye. Here are some best practices to create a professional project:

 

  • Highlight your project in simple, jargon-free language.

  • Choose professional images that speak to your work. (Don’t have great images of your work? Check out websites like www.unsplash.com that offer free, high-quality images you can use. Be sure to make sure you have permission to use.) 

  • Proofread your work so there are no typos.

  • Don’t use click bait, text-heavy graphics, or the Upwork logo/badge.

  • Don’t share your contact information or personal information. 

To learn more about Project Catalog, click here.

 

~ Joanne
Upwork
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