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Re: Location Selection Expanding to UK Clients

gerrits-wim
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William G Member Since: Jun 18, 2013
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Let me make an estimation for you how many of this "UK-only" job posts will lead to any long term contracts via Upwork: <1% 

 

The "UK only" option will mostly be used by companies who are "just fishing" on Upwork and are not looking for any long term contracts via Upwork. As it makes no sense for an EU/UK company to hire a confirmed EU/UK resident long term via Upwork as it is frankly ilegal. 

 

Did you do your research on this?  Google : "bogus self employement", "false self employment". It's a hot topic at the moment.

 

The few posted "UK only" jobs are all companies with profiles with an unverified payment profile are just confirming my theory.

 

Seasoned freelancer on this board probably smell it : This feature is not benefiting any UK freelancer or UK company......

kfarnell
Community Guru
Kim F Member Since: Aug 26, 2015
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>  As it makes no sense for an EU/UK company to hire a confirmed EU/UK resident long term via Upwork as it is frankly ilegal. 

 

No, it isn't. It is possible for such a hire to be illegal, but that would involve a number of factors.  In fact, some of the criteria for identifying true self-employment are integral to Upwork (https://www.gov.uk/employment-status/selfemployed-contractor): 

 

  • they put in bids or give quotes to get work
  • they’re not under direct supervision when working
  • they submit invoices for the work they’ve done
  • they’re responsible for paying their own National Insurance and tax
  • they don’t get holiday or sick pay when they’re not working
  • they operate under a contract (sometimes known as a ‘contract for services’ or ‘consultancy agreement’) that uses terms like ‘self-employed’, ‘consultant’ or an ‘independent contractor’

Even if someone who should have worker status is falsely defined as self-employed, that still doesn't make hiring via Upwork illegal in itself.

 

I'm as irritated as the next person by 'UK only' being a default, but that doesn't mean anything illegal is happening here 

illy1983
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Ilanit F Member Since: Nov 3, 2019
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I am a bit confused as to why you only accept UK passports for UK based freelancers when there are millions of EU citizen legally residing in the UK (but do not hold UK passports).

 

The system you have created prevents the majority of freelancers of being able to get UK clients contacting them.

 

Please advise as I reside in London and have an EU passport.

djondinium
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Aleksandar D Moderator Member Since: Mar 23, 2019
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Hi Ilanit,

 

One of our team members will reach out to you directly via a support ticket to assist you further.

Thank you.

~ Aleksandar
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b2e8a5e0
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Einar B Member Since: Mar 10, 2021
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Hi, I would like a support ticket as well.

Would also be a good idea to change the system so that passport photo+utility bill is an option.

Many of these queries are years old

Regards
Einar blixhavn
bstojadinovic
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Bojan S Moderator Member Since: Mar 9, 2018
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Thank you for reaching out to us and sharing your feedback, Einar.

 

One of our team members will reach out to you directly via a support ticket to assist you with your verification process. 


~ Bojan
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researchediting
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Douglas Michael M Member Since: May 22, 2015
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Thank you, Lena. I am happy to hear it was not a systemic problem.

 

Best,

Michael

mikeyinglis
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Michael I Member Since: Oct 1, 2018
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Can I suggest that a DVLA licence summary is deemed valid ID by Upwork? Its online, digital, faster than going through my stuff to find the old paper version somewhere!

versailles
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Rene K Member Since: Jul 10, 2014
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I want the same feature for the city of Vatican.

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wendy_writes
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Wendy C Member Since: Aug 24, 2015
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Bwahahahahahahha @ Rene.