@Arpad L wrote:
While I welcome any changes that could potentially mean more and better jobs, I do not really understand the point of that "optional" change. If anybody could easily just switch back, what is the point?
The point is that people who've registered but haven't come back in ages will not be bothered to switch back and it will reduce the number of completely abandoned profiles in the search results. Which is a good thing, especially in oversaturated fields. I understand that it'll be an additional annoying click for the niche and highly specialised freelancers who have a much smaller pool of jobs in the first place but we already have to deal with plenty of additional annoying clicks here as it is. This one at least seems to have a purpose.
I agree that the 30-day thing might be a bit short (considering the majority of projects and their budget/expectations) and perhaps a period of not logging in would be a more accurate indicator of inactivity. But the principle is something I generally agree with - that 12 mill number that's thrown out there is a gross overestimation of the people who actually contribute to the talent pool here.
I recently got message that from now on upwork will hide inactive freelancers profiles from search results and I would like to get some clarifications. How does this system work for agency freelancers in followin cases?
- Freelancer is non exclusive agency member, works on agency contracts but has no personal contracts. Will profile be shown in search results?
- Freelancer is an exclusive agency member and has no contracts however agency itself has active contracts, will profile be shown in search results?
Article link: support.upwork.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003975967
This initiative applies to both agency and individual freelancers. If you are a freelancer who only works as part of an agency (meaning you do not have an individual Upwork account), you are not eligible for our Freelance Plus paid membership. If your profile has been set to private, please log into your Upwork account and you’ll see a pop-up notification with ways to have it reset to public so that it appears in search results. You can also see your options by clicking on the “Find Work” tab and then on you status under “Visibility” (which is beneath the “My Profile” overview on the right side of the page).
Thanks for the update.
I am all for reducing competition / market saturation -- especially because of "50+ proposals" after 10 minutes the job was posted --, but being able to switch visibility back to "on", this change is really only about a cleanup of very old profiles -- isn't this a CS's job in the first place? I mean no offence here, but I hope this update is not made due to their laziness or something like that.
Please note that we're not removing new or old accounts/profiles as part of this or any other initiative. This is only about displaying profiles in search results, as Lena described in the opening post.
Just a few thoughts on this:
1) Currently I have a fixed-price job, for a month or about it. And I received an email, that I need to earn money till next month for appearing in search results. That's ridiculous! I am already have a project I'n working on. But Upwork think that I am not generating revenue.
2) Also, when clients search for freelancers, they have this filter. Why it is not enough? Client can decide on his (her) own which freelancer (s)he heeds.
3) I have searched for first mention of this feature in the Lena E. post (she mentioned it in first message). But didn't find any mention of it. Also, I searched in the ToS (I think it is a big change, so it would be there), but didn't found any mention too. So, can anyone find first mention of this feature, please!
Please check Lena's first opeining post on this thread I copied below and let me know if you have any questions.
@Lena E wrote:
Starting June 30th, we’ll be fine tuning Freelancer Search by removing inactive users in Search results. This change is intended to help clients quickly and easily find available freelancers for their projects and reduce competition for our top freelancers, by presenting only freelancers who are actively earning money through Upwork. This is one of the initiatives we previewed in March.
How will this work?
Freelancer profiles will automatically change to “private” if they haven’t earned money on Upwork for 30 days (50 days for new freelancers). This change isn’t permanent and only impacts search results—freelancers can continue submitting proposals. And once a freelancer starts to earn again, their profile will become public.
We understand there may be circumstances that prevent a freelancer from earning. So, we’ve made the process simple and easy to make a profile visible again in Search results. When a freelancer logs into their account they’ll see a pop-up notification with all the options available to set their visibility back to “public.” These options are also shown on the “Find Work” tab and under the “Visibility” status on your profile.
This new change in search reults will have no impact on your ability to apply to and win jobs. If you have a Freelance Plus membership, this visibility change will not affect you. By having a Freelance Plus membership your profile will continue to remain public even when you’re not actively earning.
Max N. posted:
Vladimir, DID you REALLY read my post? I hope so, because it has a two questions (items 2 and 3), so you can answer them, please.
Well...at least you said please. IMO you didn't need to scream at him or word it in a way that it appears that you're ordering him to answer your questions while giving him your permission to do so.
Pat, you're right, I was a bit angry. But, I didn't scream at Vladimir, and didn't want to do this. My point was to highlight some words I want to
Anyway, it seems to he didn't read my post - he just copied the first post and ask have I any questions or not. But I am already posted them. And, I did not order him to answer, he replied to my post by himself and didn't say nothing on this topic.