Almost all freelancers replying with chatGPT non-sense: is it only me ?

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Almost all freelancers are replying with chatGPT non-sense: is it only me or does it happen with other people too ?

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[7b00a825]

Hello, I definitely agree with you! It is obvious that the proposals have been written using some AI generation tools. Just one or two of them look like a human wrote them. You are not alone in this.

[f99a590f]

It discourages me from spending precious connects on jobs I like when I see too many proposals. But I am starting to understand a lot of those are bots or AI generated.

[celgins]

Many freelancers have been doing this for several months now. However, clients are also creating job descriptions using Upwork's generative AI tools, so it's happening on both sides.

In your job descriptions, remind freelancers to submit their own genuine responses, not generative AI responses.

[f99a590f]

I am curious about AI tools for part of the learning, exploration, and creative process. But I have been too busy to experiment with it. When I a learn something new I need a clear mind and quite a bit of time space. I don't understand using it to write a simple job post, proposal, or cover letter. Unless you need to write hundreds of them for work. It seems easier for me to just do these simple tasks manually rather than invest time in learning a new tool. I think AI can be useful but like any piece of new technology, it can be miused and abused. 

[eldarh78]

Upwork is contributing to this problem by actively promoting AI tools. You can't login to the platform without seeing some ad pushing AI, often an AI tool providing the ability to generate text a la ChatGPT. Also, as noted by Clark, clients are as guilty of using these tools as freelancers.

In a way, this might be a good thing for genuine clients and freelancers NOT caught up in the whole "use Ai or fall behind" nonsense promoted by AI vendors. As a content writer focusing exclusively on writing my own stuff without AI at all, I'm seeing growing interest from good type of clients, not the cheapsters that want ridiculous loads of AI-generated rubbish. On the client side, I'm sure those who write proper, descriptive job ads without AI are more likely to attract good quality freelancing talent.    

[natashaabadash]

Yup, everybody here uses AI generative tools for everything they can, and Upwork is encouraging that behaviour. 

[luce-neidert]

Natasa, I never use AI generative tools  to write a cover letter because I love  writing and I don't want a stupid tool to write for me.

Apparently, what Uwpork has been wanting to do for the last year or two is to make as much money possible by selling connects. They love freelancers to send stupid "chatGPT non-sense" because they know this annoys clients. The freelancer will not be chosen by the client and will have spent  money on connects to submit "chatGPT non-sense".

Conclusion: use common sense!

[natashaabadash]

It doesn't matter if you don't use AI tools, or me, or any other individual. We are the minority. And I very well know where Upwork's profit comes from, that's why I have chosen to not participate in this anymore. However, it is not only about freelancers using annoying AI tools. Upwork is using it, clients are using it even before Upwork gave them more options to use it even harder, freelancers are using it obviously, everybody is using AI tools, and you really have to be out of touch to bitch about one side using AI tools when we practically live in insane AI bubble at the moment.

Common sense is overrated apparently and it has left the building long time ago.

[luce-neidert]

I like the last sentence of you message, but do I hope it does not totally reflect reality!

I'll never get interested in using AI to write and I'm sure neither will lots of freelancers. Maybe it's a question of generation, maybe newcomers think they need to show interest in AI to succeed on Upwork. Who knows!

[the-right-writer]

I work with people of all ages. The first issue for most is that the work is stolen. We can be nice and call it plagiarism, but it's pure theft. The open source material is fine, but Open AI and other companies refuse to reveal when, where, and how they get the data, or who it belongs to. It isn't altrusim for some. They are worried if they can use someone's work without notification or compensation, the same can happen to them. There are lawsuits working their way through the courts. The likely result will be that all chatbot content, regardless of the medium must have a disclaimer.

[the-right-writer]

No, not everyone plays with chatbots. We don't have any true AI, and when we do, we will have numerous quandries to settle.

There is closer to "AI" but it has nothing to do with the chatbots, which are predictive LLM's and what Upwork is pushing. Many low-skilled and unskilled people use them, but the professionals that I know and work with would not consider using stolen work. In addition, you are getting an essential web-scraping and dumping of hundreds, thousands, or millions of books, with no verifications.

Some of us are not living in an "AI bubble." Some of us live in the real world.

[natashaabadash]

Those who think they do not have any role in the AI bubble are not living in the real world. 

[the-right-writer]

Those who make grand pronouncements about others are not living in the real world, but a world of their own making.

[natashaabadash]

Yeah, and apparently, that is your job here. 

[9d8d4377]

Yh True which is very bad

[c668363a]

I don't think so bro.

[rasel2008]

This is a very annoeying. But you also still find there find some custom reply. 

[be70ce4d]

not all 😀
but now it's life part of all IT mans

[a91d6933]

I don't use ChatGPT when writing my proposals. One reason is that I just don't like it. It seems to produce generic results that are worded awkwardly. The other main reason why I don't use it is because part of the services I offer as a freelancer include medical writing. I wouldn't feel good using ChatGPT to write proposals for writing projects. Thirdly, it's not original and it's not me which is reason enough by itself for me to avoid using it. 

[lysis10]

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I don't use ChatGPT when writing my proposals. One reason is that I just don't like it. It seems to produce generic results that are worded awkwardly. The other main reason why I don't use it is because part of the services I offer as a freelancer include medical writing. I wouldn't feel good using ChatGPT to write proposals for writing projects. Thirdly, it's not original and it's not me which is reason enough by itself for me to avoid using it. 

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Kinda funny considering my strategy has changed 10 times since gen AI, but I try to sound like a person now in my proposals and say nothing similar to any of the things these people post lol  It's kinda easy really. Look at their profiles. They all say the same thing now. Same as proposals.

I've kinda wondered if even having bad english is strangely an advantage now for some people. You would come off like a human and not ChatGPT, which would give you an advantage.

[m_terrazas]

I don't think even bad English (like mine) will help anymore.
I was accused on the forum of writing my answers with AI. And I don't even know how to use it.
It must be the help of Google Translate 🙂

[lysis10]

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I don't think even bad English (like mine) will help anymore.
I was accused on the forum of writing my answers with AI. And I don't even know how to use it.
It must be the help of Google Translate 🙂

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oh that's funny. All the AI people here use bullet points and it's pretty obvious when they use it. You don't give off that vibe at all.

[the-right-writer]

No, it is people who don't want to follow rules and have it their way. 

[luce-neidert]

Let's add a 'typo' here and there to sound more human 😆