๐Ÿˆ
ยป Forums ยป Clients ยป Boosted Proposals Negatively Impacting My Abi...
Page options
Amanda's avatar
Amanda L Community Member

Boosted Proposals Negatively Impacting My Ability to Filter and Vet Freelancers

As a client this feature is not helping me find the most qualified freelancers. It is really just negatively impacting my ability to adjust the filtering to show me the most recent applicants or to sort by other categories. When I try to filter by newest so I can see and respond to the most recent ones, it keeps the boosted proposals on top, even though I've already both shortlisted those two and responded, and so I have to scroll down even further to see new proposals. I don't care who has boosted their post. I am looking for the best fit, not who paid to annoy me in my filtering ability. 

 

I understand why freelancers would think this would be useful, but whether or not the proposal is boosted is not going to impact my vetting and selection of a consultant. I look at each of the proposals and vet them based on specific criteria. And where they show up in the list is not part of that criteria. I think most discerning clients would agree. When you force these boosted proposals on top, it means I have to scroll more and makes it harder for me to organize who I've looked at and who I haven't.

 

Please remove this feature and just let me select freelancers based on how I want to select them. Also, the best match is ridiculous still. I posted for a health coach, and I didn't select any skills related to business coaching, but none of the health coaches are best matches, and all of the business coaches are best matches. 

153 REPLIES 153
Will's avatar
Will L Community Member

I see. 

Tiffany's avatar
Tiffany S Community Member

How is it like an employer charging an applicant when Upwork is not the employer/client? It's more like the postal service charging you to overnight mail an application.

Adrian's avatar
Adrian H Community Member

Exactly right.

Adrian's avatar
Adrian H Community Member

As you point out it is all about PROFIT and shareholders and Upwork Directors making money.  Have a look here to see what Freelancers are funding: https://www.salary.com/tools/executive-compensation-calculator/upwork-inc-executive-salaries?year=20...

Jeanne's avatar
Jeanne H Community Member

While the 8 + million includes insurance, and other benefits, it is a huge number, but it doesn't surprise me. Many CEOs make obscene amounts of money. I'm not tilting at that windmill. I pick my battles, and attempting to get CEOs to accept a reasonable salary is not one of them.

Kellen's avatar
Kellen N Community Member

As a freelancer, I can't tell you how much I dislike this feature! I think Upwork introduced it just to earn money from freelancers buying more and more connects. It is purely to benefit UW's bottom line, not the client or the freelancer.

James's avatar
James S Community Member

Why are they promoting boosting as a brand new feature? It's a carbon copy of what already existed.

Tiffany's avatar
Tiffany S Community Member

They aren't. They are promoting profile boosting, which is a different feature.

Adrian's avatar
Adrian H Community Member

They are promoting anything that results in Freelancers wasting connects so that they earn more money from freelancers who have to purchase more connects to apply for jobs that don't even exist.

Kim's avatar
Kim W Community Member

Jeremiah well well-thought-out and thorough response. 

 

I disagree with something you mentioned.  I think Upworkโ€™s primary business model WAS the derivation of profit and revenue from clientele HIRING freelancers.  Now, its business model seems more skewed to CONNECTING clientele to freelancers.  The introduction of the purchase of Connects to boost profiles and job applications has injected another, perhaps more potentially lucrative and consistent source of profit and revenue.  It used to be that not until a client hired a freelancer that Upwork would begin to generate its core revenue.  Now, with Connects, any freelancer, experienced or unexperienced, qualified, or unqualified, is a revenue source for Upwork.  The actual hiring and the revenue that comes from their share of the payment is still there but there is now the added motivation to onboard as many job applicants as possible without any regard to what is best for the client. 

 

The number of applicants for each job seems to have jumped immensely.  Application views have declined (from personal experience).  Job invitations are going extinct.

 

I would think that a platform matching clients with freelancers would jump over backwards to ensure an outstanding client experience.  Pinning boosted profiles to the top of the clientโ€™s Proposal Manager and boosting job applications without ensuring that the profile is qualified and matched to their requirements make the vetting process more difficult for clients.  From the clientโ€™s perspective, seeing profiles pinned to the top that do not meet their job requirements may do more harm than good.  Does Upwork want these boosted profiles to represent what the client might perceive as Upworkโ€™s hand-selected and approved freelancer recommendations?  Clients may not understand that freelancers paid to have their profiles boosted but rather, they are freelancers chosen by Upwork to be best suited to their job. 

 

Anything that can lead to client frustration, a more difficult vetting and hiring process, and a sense that Upwork is not truly interested in helping them find the right candidate does not bode well for the future of the platform.

Mykola's avatar
Mykola A Community Member

Lucrative but not consistent. It lead to fail. You can provide service not so expensive but consistent. Or can scam someone once, it is profitable but single incoming.

Tiffany's avatar
Tiffany S Community Member

Yes, that was their business model. And it consistently lost them money for 7 years--millions of dollars/month. 

 

They introduced this stuff everyone hates, and now they're profitable for the first time ever.

Adrian's avatar
Adrian H Community Member

So you effectively admit that the current business model has nothing to do with the "better" payment structure and all the other comments made but purely to enable making a profit at the freelancer's expense. 

 

Why not be honest and say that when introducing the new format instead of dressing it up as improved service or any of the other excuses that have been given?

Dale's avatar
Dale D Community Member

I used to make over 100k on Upwork and was Top Rated Plus. As soon as "boosted" proposals came out, my work completely stopped. I went from having anywhere from 5-10 clients per month to zero. My weeky profile views went to zero. I was paying Upwork close 2k-4k per month just in commissions. Now I pay them nothing as I get zero jobs. I personally know that I'm not the only one that has experienced this. If you read the Upwork forums, everyone is complaining about this. Yet, Upwork does not seem to care. Their reputation has been tarnished as clients and freelancers have left in droves and Upwork has become just another Fiver. Their algorithm is completey broke. What they've done is taken Googles model of PPC where they only reward the people who pay for clicks. The problem is you have no idea what to bid or if you're even going to get clicks. I'm starting to wonder if Upwork even has legitimate job posts anymore. Every now and then I'll see what looks like a good job and it will have 50+ invites. I love how Upwork doesn't give you an exact number of people who applied. For example, why just list 50+ instead of the actual number? It's because they know it will discourage more applicants. 50 is already way too many and the chance of landing the job is slim. If it's say 200-300......you have no chance of landing that job. Also how many of these job posts are even real? When I do apply, I don't even get a follow up or response. It makes you wonder if these posts are even real. I will be leaving Upwork for good as it is no longer a viable source of jobs.

Jeanne's avatar
Jeanne H Community Member

Although I disagree that the boosting is directly responsible, I certainly understand your feelings. The big problem is allowing anyone to be a freelancer, removing platform and category limits, and removing every skill test. Once the clients began to receive 50 or hundreds of garbage proposals, they left.

 

I'm starting to wonder if Upwork even has legitimate job posts anymore.

 

Well, not in my field, and not for over a year. The same is not true for the physical world, or with other platforms with strict rules, limits and skills tests.

 

Every now and then I'll see what looks like a good job and it will have 50+ invites. I love how Upwork doesn't give you an exact number of people who applied. For example, why just list 50+ instead of the actual number? It's because they know it will discourage more applicants. 50 is already way too many and the chance of landing the job is slim. If it's say 200-300......you have no chance of landing that job.

 

Hundreds...

 

I will be leaving Upwork for good as it is no longer a viable source of jobs.

 

That's truly unfortunate. Perhaps, not so much for you, because no doubt others will appreciate your skills. However, for the platform and for clients, it's a loss. Upwork doesn't seem to mind top rated freelancers who have earned Upwork a lot of money leaving because they have the unskilled throwing connects.

 

 

Adrian's avatar
Adrian H Community Member

This is not the only way their algorithm is completey broken. Today I received one of their "5 new Upwork opportunities" emails.  So I looked at what was supposed to be on offer.  4 out of the 5 were shown as looking for Freelancers out of my area, so were of no use at all and the 5th had already receved 50+ proposals and had not been viewd by the client for 5 days.

These are supposed to be "

Featured Jobs

Clients have paid to feature these jobs to valuable freelancers like you

 

Really? I don't think so.

Courage's avatar
Courage K Community Member

How can I get more organic jobs contracts, my account had started picking up before the introduction of this feature but know I merely get any jobs even after I have optimized my freelancer account? For the Boosted Proposals, it's extra expensive with no jobs, any insights.

William T's avatar
William T C Community Member

Courage,

 

Continue to upgrade your Skills to hot in-demand client needs. This works very well.

Edison's avatar
Edison V Community Member

Iโ€™m a freelancer and believe me, the only one who likes this system is Upwork. 

What started at a rate of 2. 4 or 6 connects to apply is now a minimum of 16 and goes easily to 50 connects... It will destroy Upwork in no time, I am looking for other platforms after being comfortable getting clients here for 7 years... its bs

Maria's avatar
Maria T Community Member

No, the minimum is not 16 connects. The range is 4 to 16.
I find everything in my feed.

Edison's avatar
Edison V Community Member

No, its not a hard minimum but it is the minimum I find for anything thatยดs worth applying for...   The 4 and 6 that I see are 20 and 30 USD jobs... 

 

Jeanne's avatar
Jeanne H Community Member

A sincere question. Why are you applying to very cheap jobs?

Edison's avatar
Edison V Community Member

I am not, thatโ€™s why I have been spending 16 connects minimum ...  

 

Jeanne's avatar
Jeanne H Community Member

Did I misunderstand? I thought you were speaking of $20 and $30 jobs?

Edison's avatar
Edison V Community Member

If you read my first reply I said : "What started at a rate of 2. 4 or 6 connects to apply is now a minimum of 16 and goes easily to 50 connects..." to which someone replied : "No, the minimum is not 16 connects. The range is 4 to 16. I find everything in my feed."   So I clarified "No, its not a hard minimum but it is the minimum I find for anything thatยดs worth applying for...   The 4 and 6 that I see are 20 and 30 USD jobs..."

So, yes I was speaking about 20 and 30 USD jobs... but I said itยดs not worth applying for!   I hope this breakdown helps out, let me know if you have any other questions, have a great day!

Latest Articles
Featured Topics
Learning Paths