Feb 7, 2020 07:47:51 AM Edited Feb 7, 2020 08:28:43 AM by Bojan S
Hi, there is a chinese man that's is asking me if I can share my upwork account because 'american freelancers are most demanded by clients' but it seems weird to me. Here is a screenshot
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Feb 21, 2020 08:53:56 AM Edited Feb 21, 2020 09:46:21 AM by Bojan S
I blocked him but he continue creating skype accounts and sending me messages! Today:
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Feb 21, 2020 09:48:57 AM by Preston H
Sofia:
Don't feed trolls.
This person may be getting a thrill out of bothering you.
Don't reply. Don't engage.
If he sends you a message, ignore it.
Upwork doesn't control Skype or LinkedIn or other sites. I suggest you don't even contact Upwork about this loser. You already reported him once. Nothing else they can do.
Use the delete button and forget about it.
Feb 7, 2020 08:11:59 AM by Amanda L
Sofia R wrote:
Hi, there is a chinese man that's is asking me if I can share my upwork account because 'american freelancers are most demanded by clients' but it seems weird to me. Here is a screenshot
Why does it seem weird to you?
Feb 21, 2020 08:55:36 AM Edited Feb 21, 2020 09:46:49 AM by Bojan S
Seemed weird to me that he asked me to share my account. I blocked him again and again and he creates new accounts. This happenned today:
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Feb 22, 2020 01:42:49 PM by Nichola L
Sofia,
Actually, I think this is quite serious and very creepy. Does this guy keep on opening new accounts on Upwork?
Also if he is bothering you on Skype, try uninstalling it for a while and use another service like WhatsApp.
Feb 22, 2020 06:05:04 PM by Preston H
re: "Actually, I think this is quite serious and very creepy."
I read the transcript before it was deleted.
This "Chinese freelancer" (which may or may not be true) is not someone who is simply desperate for money. He is indeed being creepy. He is intentionally harassing and threatening this woman.
Feb 23, 2020 05:58:12 AM by Nichola L
Preston H wrote:re: "Actually, I think this is quite serious and very creepy."
I read the transcript before it was deleted.
This "Chinese freelancer" (which may or may not be true) is not someone who is simply desperate for money. He is indeed being creepy. He is intentionally harassing and threatening this woman.
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I wonder if he is still opening accounts on Upwork? If he is, there must be some way of zapping him forever.
I didn't see the transcript, so I assume Sofia is also being bothered by him on LinkedIn. I hope she has reported this person to them.
A message to Upwork: I think sometimes it would be useful to not (immediately) zap quoted content. For one thing, it can help other freelancers to recognize danger signals and for another, it would prevent the sort of smartass reply such as mine in an earlier post.
Feb 23, 2020 09:40:10 AM by Preston H
As far as I can tell from the transcript that was posted and the notes from this freelancer... she is dealing with a "Chinese freelancer" who is not using the Upwork site to contact her. If this would-be scammer is only using Skype and LinkedIn to contact her, I don't know that there is anything Upwork can actually do.
Upwork has no control over other sites and tools, such as Skype. And even if they did, we are talking about a person who is creating new fake accounts in order to contact someone on tools where he was already blocked him.
The scammer claimed to be able to negatively impact her Upwork account if she didn't comply withhis requst to let him use her Upwork account. This is an empty threat.
If it makes the freelancer feel any better... I would point out that this person (as inappropriate as their behavior is) probably lives on an entirely different continent, and does not actually have any power to do anything to their Upwork account.
Feb 22, 2020 01:22:55 PM by John B
Although this violates Upwork's terms of service. This contact, as you did, should be blocked. I recommend he also be reported directly to contractor support because this is a major infraction.
That said, what would motivate this contractor to break the rules so severely? Now consider his life. This freelancer knows he is screened from some majority, if not perhaps almost all U.S.-only posted jobs. He believes he is qualified. He knows he can deliver excellent work. He has himself to feed, perhaps his family to feed. Yet by sheer location of residence, his capability to do so is vastly limited over ours.
Agency membership will not help. As an international, even Agency feed-through would be blocked. The best he could do is subcontract through a Upwork contract established by a U.S. resource that physically hires him as a subcontractor.
He has broken the rules. The block was correct, reporting major infractions is probably a good idea. "Rules are rules" and they exist for a reason.
I think a moment or two for empathy. Perhaps a quiet tear a fellow contractor might be driven to points of desparation. A joyous, humble thank you, that most work is not posted in China and we are blocked from even seeing it.
Is the balanced response to doing what must be doing.
For the record, I hire only internationally. To date, Bucharest, Kyev, Lagos, three cities in India, and Argentina. I mentor only internationally. That is not to be intentionally discriminatory. That is to help individuals who are fellow freelancers and who work at a massive disadvantage to us.
Following the rules. Compassion, and humble thanks is my response to this situation.