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Re: Clients, do you read all proposals ? Do you see all of them ?

yurynmuz
Community Leader
Yury M Member Since: Jun 16, 2017
1 of 27

Please tell, it's interesting. Do you open all of them dispite of some filters (maybe - I'm not sure what you see there) ?

 

This question is only to clients - buyers.

 

Simply as I read many times you recieve tons of proposals and it's not easy to read them all. Do you go to the bottom ?

 

Please tell your own, personal way of dealing with these situations.

 

Cheers

 

 

 

 

rpkersbergen123
Active Member
Robert Paul K Member Since: Jun 18, 2015
2 of 27

It depends, if there are just a few candidates i do read them.

 

If there are dozens of candidates.... How i scan proposals:

1. Job succes score cuts out 80% of freelancers, i usually don't read proposals of low JSS

2. Then i read only headline and skills, this cuts out another 5-15%

3. Of the 5%-10% left i do read the proposals, however: half the proposals is not relevant and just copy paste ("dear hiring manager")

 

I make my decision based 80% on job feedback and 20-30% on proposal and profile text. So it does help to have a good letter

yurynmuz
Community Leader
Yury M Member Since: Jun 16, 2017
3 of 27

Cheers Robert. So you don't read new freelancers proposals at all. with zero JSS

 

It confirms what I think.

prestonhunter
Community Guru
Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
4 of 27

Do I read all job proposals?

 

Oh my goodness, no.

 

I think job proposals are VERY important.

 

But as a client, I rarely read any proposals.

 

I mostly look at portfolios and work history.

 

But I think other clients read job proposals.

yurynmuz
Community Leader
Yury M Member Since: Jun 16, 2017
5 of 27

Cheers Preston

 

You wrote - But I think other clients read job proposals.

 

So you personally don't read them.

 

Have a good day.

versailles
Community Guru
Rene K Member Since: Jul 10, 2014
6 of 27

@Yury M wrote:

Cheers Robert. So you don't read new freelancers proposals at all. with zero JSS

 

It confirms what I think.


 It confirms what you think. Indeed. Not the reality of the market.

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rpkersbergen123
Active Member
Robert Paul K Member Since: Jun 18, 2015
7 of 27

Yury - That's not what i said. I do read proposals if there are only a few of them (less than 6-7). That happens for some projects.

 

I rarely read proposals of freelancers with low JSS if there are many applicants, this saves a lot of time. I'm not sure what others do though and do think writing a good proposal is important.

 

I don't just UpWork's "recommended" function but search manually. First filter is usually JSS + number of hours worked. 

 

Obviously, if i were you, i would spend less time on a proposal if 100's of others are replying, the job isn't entirely up your alley or you're not that interested in the project or client anyway.

 

Good luck.

yurynmuz
Community Leader
Yury M Member Since: Jun 16, 2017
8 of 27

Cheers Robert

 

I understood about low JSS - some people read, some people don't

 

Have a good time

versailles
Community Guru
Rene K Member Since: Jul 10, 2014
9 of 27

The few times I posted a job I spent a tremendous time reading proposals. Usually I would filter out spams and proposals from people that have nothing to offer. And then I would refine the selection until only two or three of equal quality remain. Then, I would pick one.

 

I don't consider low JSS.

 

I totally consider people without JSS. I see them as an opportunity. Hiring someone with no Upwork job history is great because usually they want to make a very good impression for their first job.

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yurynmuz
Community Leader
Yury M Member Since: Jun 16, 2017
10 of 27

Cheers Rene. Your info is very useful.

 

Ha Ha - maybe I will BE READ one day !! Smiley Happy

 

I try to look on things with humor and selfcriticizing Smiley Happy

 

Have a good time

 

 

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