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Find out when Freelancer was last online/logged in?

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Tiffany S Member Since: Jan 15, 2016
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@Preston H wrote:

Keep in mind that both clients and freelancers can use the "invisible" mode when they are online and logged into Upwork.

 

This is not a browser feature. It is an actual Upwork setting. Invisible versus visible... A way that Upwork users can log in, look at messages, etc. without signaling to anyone the fact that thay are logged into Upwork.

 

So "stalking" someone on Upwork to try to see when they are online may not yield information that is accurate 


 Which is awesome, because the last thing we need is to bring Upwork interactions down to the level of high school Facebook drama (OMG! He's been online for two hours and posted three stupid videos and he hasn't even read my message!!!!! He commented on Sylvie's post! What should I do?)

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Ankit P Member Since: Sep 15, 2018
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I support this. I sent invite messages to 4 freelancers this weekend. There is no "average response time" for them because none of them had a project before, it would be the first time any of them was officially hired here. That is, if they accept. Maybe they put up those postings ages ago and dont come to upork anymore. Maybe they will see the invitation, maybe they wont. It does bother me that I'll have to wait for hours or maybe days or maybe over a week to find that out. Atleast add a "last visible on" feature if you are bothered about privacy, and dont update it if they chose to remain invisible for whatsoever funny reason. I personally think that this is not a social network website where people are stalking each other. We are looking to get our work done here.

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John K Member Since: Feb 17, 2015
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Ankit, if you’re concerned about invitation response time, I don’t understand why you’re inviting freelancers who do not have fast average response time in their profile. But knowing if a freelancer is online won’t be as useful as you think because many freelancers, including me, never log off the site, but that doesn’t mean they’re looking at the site or looking at your messages.
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Prashant P Member Since: Sep 29, 2015
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And why do you care?  If they don't respond they are:

 

a: not interested in your job/your price

b. Like John and Me who never logoff, but don't check site every min.

c. They are lazy or do not know.

 

There is no requirement that THEY MUST RESPOND TO EACH AND EVERY INVITATION.

 

You don;t respond to every proposal, do you?

 

If they don'y respond move on

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Nichola L Member Since: Mar 13, 2015
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@Ankit P wrote:

I support this. I sent invite messages to 4 freelancers this weekend. There is no "average response time" for them because none of them had a project before, it would be the first time any of them was officially hired here. That is, if they accept. Maybe they put up those postings ages ago and dont come to upork anymore. Maybe they will see the invitation, maybe they wont. It does bother me that I'll have to wait for hours or maybe days or maybe over a week to find that out. Atleast add a "last visible on" feature if you are bothered about privacy, and dont update it if they chose to remain invisible for whatsoever funny reason. I personally think that this is not a social network website where people are stalking each other. We are looking to get our work done here.


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There are two sides to this story Ankit.

 

We freelancers spend our connects (a limited number) sending proposals that have taken some time to formulate to totally unresponsive clients. Freelancers would love it if clients (particularly those who invite us to interview) actually had the manners to reply, even if it is to refuse the proposal. 

 

 Serious freelancers want to work. So I would suggest that you are fishing in the wrong pool of freelancers. It is absurd to want to see if the freelancers you wish to hire are online or not, because even if you could, what can you do about it? They may simply have chosen not to reply to your invitation.

 

That said, the fact that they don't respond, could possibly mean that they are not active on Upwork, as we have a responsiveness score, that drops if we do not respond to an invitation within 24 hours, whether to accept or to reject it. 

 

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Andrew B Member Since: Jul 27, 2019
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Knowing when your freelancer or Project owner is online seams resonable to me. I'd happy for my freelancers to know when im online and woudl also like to know when they are online (and were last onliene). Especially where working with oneone new... It would be very useful to know whether thay have been: online, working on someone elses job or have just fallen of the twig.

I'm currently experianceing this porject on a project with a 1 week timframe and my freelancer has  been unresponsive for 4 days.

By the feel of other comments, just make it fair, visability from both sides.

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Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
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re: "I'm currently experianceing this porject on a project with a 1 week timframe and my freelancer has been unresponsive for 4 days."

 

If you have a 1 week timeframe, why do you have only one freelancer - a freelancer who is unresponsive - working on this?

 

If I have a tight timeframe, then I hire multiple freelancers - or I hire a reliable freelancer I have worked with before - in order to ensure that I get the work done in time.

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Robert R Member Since: Sep 14, 2018
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Wow. Blame me for not hiring 5 people just in case 4 of them jump ship. It wasn't a one week timeframe in total. The last step was only one week when he was supposed to deliver the final project. I had been working with him for a couple months. Then he delivered one day before the deadline and the work was no good. I sent he a list, which he requested of all the problems that needede resolving. That was the last I heard from him. I had told him that since we already missed my deadline, it wasn't a rush anymore, but I just needed the corrections to be made. He never responded and still hasn't. That was October 31st.

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Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
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Robert:

There is no blame involved.

 

I often describe strategies that successful clients can use in order to achieve their goals.

 

If I have achieved my goals, even if I have used strategies which may seem "unorthodox" or which rely on "lowering my expectations," then I have achieved my goals. That is what is important.


Sometimes I am able to achieve my goals by understanding the limitations of Upwork as a platform.

 

One of the things I understand is that Upwork does NOT provide programming. It does NOT provide websites, or logos, or graphic design, or any other type of work.

 

It does, however, provide an excellent way to find freelancers. I can take into account the fact that these freelancers may be imperfect, and that Upwork itself does not guarantee delivery of any work.


If a client does NOT do these things, I don't consider it a moral failing on their part. Nor would I say that they are a "bad client." So I am not blaming anyone or saying anybody did something "wrong."

 

But I can recommend effective ways to understand what Upwork does and how to take that information into account in order to help ensure a desired outcome.

 

Personally, if I needed corrections done on a project, and a freelancer who I wanted to work on those corrections did not respond, then I would hire somebody else to do the work.

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Robert R Member Since: Sep 14, 2018
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It still stands that if Upwork still had the feature where you could see the last time a freelancer you are working with was online, I would know if my freelancer was simply avoiding me, or if perhaps something serious had happened to them. This can radically affect the feedback that I would give a freelancer and would be in their best interest...unless they were, in fact, avoiding me, in which case I would know that bad feedback was justified.

 

I don't see why that would be so crazy.

 

My conversations with the freelancer were good, and although I was disappointed in what he gave me as a finished product, I was still willing to give him the opportunity to complete the job to my satisfation. He agreed, and then I never heard from him again. I want to know if that's intentional. If so, I need to leave feedback expessing that so others don't waste their time with this freelancer.

 

So again, when will that feature be available again?

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