"I really don't understand what you are trying to argue. You hired someone to work for a cheap price. So you got a cheap result. No, paying someone more does not guarantee a better result, but, in general, a better quality result is going to cost more than what you paid for a poor result. And yes, you are correct: the quality of the work often does rely on a good working relationship between the client and the freelancer.
=> I dont need arguments, I need answers beside PRICE = QUALITY. But it seems that is the only answers I get, so people hire more because they THINK based on delusionally (not fact) that they'll get higher quality.
Have you tried what i've been doing ? statistically, hire 10 cheap freelancers hence you'll get one good freelancers. It's true, if you hire 10 expensive freelancers, you can get 2 good ones. But I hire for long term, so I prefer to find cheap ones for long-term works.
"So what is your point? You refuse to pay more and expect to get a better result? You know the colloquial definition of insanity, right? "
=>> Do you know managers and HR in many companies (especially MNC) are hired and worked HARD to find best price best quality employees ?
I don't expect better result, I asume same quality. I just want someone who would works harder not because get's paid more. That's what most MNC are doing, do you never knew that ?? LOL, try your self works for MNC.
EDUCATE YOURSELF WITH THESE ECONOMIC TERMS :
- Bidding vs Auction
- Demand & Supply Equilibrium (adam smith invisible hand theory)
=> So you'd know that there's NO CORRELATION between PRICE vs QUALITY.
Doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. If you want a better result YOU need to do something different when you hire and work with a freelancer next time. That could mean more vetting, that could mean paying a higher price, that could mean more supervision (since you're hiring likely less experienced freelancers as well). Remember the success or failure of your project really rests with you, no one else. What can you do differently to change the outcome?"
=> more vetting, supervision -> AGREE
=> paying a higher price -> NOT AGREE, LOL
=> hiring likely less experienced freelancers as well, -> I do hire more experience with slightly more expensive, like $1-2/hr higher . Like I said, if they're not unique, hence, why should I hire $20 more ?...
=> Remember the success or failure of your project really rests with you, no one else. -> Agreed
=> What can you do differently to change the outcome?" -> Work harder than you would, it's already prooven you just wants to make it easier for your self by simply paying more expecting in get a better result (eventhough that may not be correct). Many online mentors (which you could find in youtube), would say "If you can't make money with little money, then you would probably won't be able to make money with big money", would you agreed to that ?
Ilham B wrote:
No one can answer my original question because there is no Single client in this discussion.
There are several clients in this discussion. Your original question was answered.
You just didn't LIKE the answers, the same as with all your other threads.
Why does it even matter what others choose to do? If you want to hire cheap freelancers then hire cheap freelancers. If I place a higher value on the work done then I will pay higher.
If you're happy with the quality you get at the price point you pay then what is all this about? What is it exactly you need help with? How exactly are you losing money, as your original post states?
"Why does it even matter what others choose to do?"
=> Well its a forum discussion, we can ask anything we want here right ?!
"If you're happy with the quality you get at the price point you pay then what is all this about?"
=> If you don't understand the term opportunity cost, then it's your problem. Not my problem if you loose money. Remember, I am not the one loosing money here due to opportunity cost, but it's you.
"If you want to hire cheap freelancers then hire cheap freelancers. If I place a higher value on the work done then I will pay higher."
=> Now this makes sense and its really answered my original question. So now I know that basically each individuals has the ability to value a freelancer based on their self irational judgement.
To conclude it :
So if there are 2 same pair of shoes, same quality, same brand, same time, same maker, just being sold at two different place. You would buy one higher than me because you feels it's deserved a higher price.
"What is it exactly you need help with?"
"How exactly are you losing money, as your original post states?"
My problem is Ioose money due to upwork's poor algorithm and SOP, not because of cheap freelancers brings poor quality of works.
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