@Baris A wrote:
You beat me to it, Baris ... was just going to post that "the silence is deafening".
Would love to be a fly on the wall of the R & D room.
Maybe there is no R & D room ... but someone, somewhere, is making disastrous decisions affecting all who use this site. The clients who started this post are not coming back to this thread, for whatever reason ... but I'm glad they opened this can of worms, or we'd all still be in the dark.
This may well explain why bids I have placed are more and more often not appearing in the range of bids listed. It's easy to tell because my bid is often the highest by far. The majority of bids I place are with newcomers which reduces the chance that they are archiving them. I guess an untalented scout has decided I'm greedy...
@Kim F wrote:
I guess an untalented scout has decided I'm greedy...
Yup. Same here. The untalented scount (or UnSc) decided (it seems) that I am too expensive after the client and her team had reviewed my proposal and decided to hire me, but of course in the meantime the UnSc had swooped in and kicked my proposal to the curb.
Interestingly Upwork are happy to edit my posts, but reluctant to respond to the very valid points made in this thread. (Except for carefully worded generic "Now, now, children, all is well, there, have a lolly..." )
To be clear, I am NOT blaming the mods because they have been gagged by corporate and are allowed to only spin the party line.
But let's be equally clear:
- **NO** - this hasn't "always" been the case (in fact mods have repeated over and over and over and over again that Upwork does NOT remove proposals from the client's view. So the "it hasn't changed" bit is an out and out untruth.
- Upwork has no right to allow demonstrably incompetent (for the purposes of deciding if a proposal is a good fit in a category they know less than nothing about) entry level employees to remove the proposals submitted by long term, successful professionals (or anyone, for that matter...)
- What about the fact that we are supposedly Upwork's customers, and what about the legally most questionable practice of taking money for proposals and then removing those very same proposals so the freelancer has to buy more, and all that without a word, sneakily, underhand?
Maybe this nonsense needs a satisfactory response sooner rather than later.
"Talent" specialists never think I'm greedy. They do, however, seem to assume I'm ready for a career change from writer to web developer, Facebook guru or skilled graphic artist. I'd say about 30-40% of my invitations are for literally none of my listed skills.
I'm wating to be deemed a "perfect" fit for a client requesting a trapeze artist.
@Petra R wrote:
But let's be equally clear:
- **NO** - this hasn't "always" been the case (in fact mods have repeated over and over and over and over again that Upwork does NOT remove proposals from the client's view. So the "it hasn't changed" bit is an out and out untruth.''
Unless, of course, what she's telling us is that the mods have been lying to us about this issue for the past couple of years.
Lordy, I hope there's a startup brewing somewhere that will replicate everything UW has done right and fix the bonehead stuff. It'll eat UW's lunch and those of us who become UW refugees will have someplace to go.
So, I decided the search the forum for similar threads. I found this one from 2015 which is long (and goes off the track here and there) but is quite interesting.
Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose (with apologies to Rene)