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My proposals are archived!

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Lambertus L Member Since: Jan 5, 2019
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I am so thoroughly demoralized after reading this thread. I've been trying to get my foot in the door with Upwork for the last 5 months and have only been able to leverage two jobs so far. I've tried everything recommended (hey, I'm sure if you checked my profile you could find room for improvement so feel free to shout out anything that I could improve).

 

I've written long cover letters, short cover letters, 100% custom cover letters, pro-forma cover letters, bid high, bid low, bid in the middle, limited myself to one or two thoughtful proposals a day, and even tried going with dozens of template proposals daily to the point where I felt I was spamming, I always attach relevant work samples, and I've edited my profile at least half a dozen times. Nothing seems to really work.

 

To hear that my proposals are likely being filtered without the client's consent or knowledge by someone with questionable qualifications makes me wonder why I'm bothering with this platform...

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Virginia F Member Since: Feb 15, 2016
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"If you want clients to receive less deadbeat proposals, kick all the deadbeats off the beeping site and be done with it already"

 

That pretty much sums it up. Even though UW says it's getting harder to have a profile approved, I don't believe it. All you have to do is read newbie forum posts to know that UW will take anyone.

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Kathy T Member Since: Jul 17, 2015
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@Virginia F wrote:

"If you want clients to receive less deadbeat proposals, kick all the deadbeats off the beeping site and be done with it already"

 

That pretty much sums it up. Even though UW says it's getting harder to have a profile approved, I don't believe it. All you have to do is read newbie forum posts to know that UW will take anyone.


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There's one OP, that I just replied to, (in the New to Upwork discussion section) who asks why can't I get a job. I looked at his profile, He has not a single word plus he has taken 2 tests with below average scores. yet he's able to send proposals. 

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Kathy T Member Since: Jul 17, 2015
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Petra - you know what? When a freelancer posts that they can not get a job, and their profile is good and complete, perhaps we can reply with a link to this discussion. 

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Baris A Member Since: Mar 15, 2017
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Remember when they were hiding jobs from freelancers after some number of top rated applications were received? Then they started to "not hide" them but there was a message from a mod saying they are still doing the experiment. This is the same experiment from what I understand from what a mod wrote here.

 

AND, there are NO talent specialists. There is an algorithm which was hiding jobs from freelancers, which is now hiding freelancers from clients.

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Wendy C Member Since: Aug 24, 2015
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Petra wrote "If you want clients to receive less deadbeat proposals, kick all the deadbeats off the beeping site and be done with it already. Taking my careful proposals and flushing them down the toilet at the hands of someone who has no clue what my clients need is not the solution."

 

That sez it all. I'm "foaming at the mouth" right along with her ... and every other professional who has seen this thread.

 

Upwork's behavior is unacceptable. Devious. Very possibly illegal. And will not be allowed to be pushed aside and ignored as is so often the methodology used to end discussions of this nature. 

 

We are a tenacious lot; that's how we survive and flourish as freelancers. We are also honest; none of the FLers who are so furious with this behavior cost Upwork a penny in 'neediness' or lost revenue.  We are the key sources of U's 20%, 10%, and 5% revenue stream.

 

 

 

 

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Maria T Member Since: Nov 12, 2015
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I have been following the thread without answering anyone because there are people here who, in addition to writing English correctly, explain everything in a detailed and precise way (Petra, you get the prize and I'm sorry about what happened to you)
It would be nice if @Dan R. and @Sarah H. (the clients) told us what explanations they have received from Upwork.
I see that no mod has followed with the thread and, really, what has happened to Petra is for give some explanation.
Angry, very angry !!

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Wendy C Member Since: Aug 24, 2015
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@ Maria, your English is very good so don't apologize, please.  Your opinions and comments are valuable - well thought out and accurate.  We'd all like to read U's 'explanation' to the clients in question.  

 

@ Baris, do you have actual proof that the misnamed 'talent' specialists are strictly algorithms or are you being brilliantly sarcastic? 

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Baris A Member Since: Mar 15, 2017
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I'm 100% sure they are not archiving "excess" proposals one by one by hand.

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Wendy C Member Since: Aug 24, 2015
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Wasn't there mention of a client charge for utilizing these so called 'experts'?  If so - pity the poor conned buyers for paying for inaccurate algorithms.

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