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g_vasilevski
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Goran V Moderator Member Since: Mar 24, 2017
21 of 48

Hi Kevin,

You can send me the details for the freelancer you would like to report via PM.
Or if you also want to file a dispute you can open a ticket with our customer support and attach all of the evidence there, our team will also review the freelancer.
If you need further help but private details are involved send me a PM(Click on my name) and I will assist you further.

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kevngash
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Kevin N Member Since: Jan 23, 2017
22 of 48

 Thank you mate. 

tlsanders
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Tiffany S Member Since: Jan 15, 2016
23 of 48

@Kevin N wrote:

 

I am just a bloody pissed client who got a very bad product, can you not just see that!!!! 

 

 

 


 Not really. I'm having a hard time seeing you as a "client," since you are apparently attempting to purchase the very same service that you purport to provide, and you've offered no explanation as to why a prolific book cover designer needs to hire a book cover designer and work extensively with him to "convey his vision" on a $75 project that your profile suggests you could easily have completed yourself.

bobafett999
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Prashant P Member Since: Sep 29, 2015
24 of 48

Tiffany:  After going through this thread as well as many other threads, let me draw a picture and you tell me if that is a plausible scenerio to screw freelancers.

 

1. A farmer bids on a job they can't do. But somehow they win the bid. The farmer has perfected the art of how the fixed price contracts work.

2. They farm out the job as a fixed price for an amount that is $100-$150 range.

3. Once they get the work they cry foul and use every conceivable reason not to pay or have no intention of compromise.

4. The dispute resolution team's final step 'Go to Arbitration' for $300.

5. The farmers would go knowing perfectly well that the freelancer is not going to plonkout $300 for a $100 job.

6. By default they win.  They get back their $300 + their escrow + the freelancer's work.

7. The farmer sells that work to the original client.

 

Isn't there a field or something in their profile they would alert Upwork that this farmer has a tendency to dispute every subcontracted work?  Also is it allowed to hire subcontractors for the job you get on Upwork?

kat303
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Kathy T Member Since: Jul 17, 2015
25 of 48

It just doesn't make any sense at all. That you are a graphic designer, and all the work you've done, the jobs you've completed are all designing book covers. Your portfolio also showcases your work which is nothing but book covers.

 

To take a step away from your original post, Perhaps you can explain me why a book cover designer would hire another designer to create a book cover for them. 

You said the freelancer didn't meet your design conception. If you have a conception/idea for a book cover design, and you are a book cover designer, why wouldn't you design this book cover youself???

 

And why, if you charge only $15 on the majority of the book cover design work you've done as a freelancer, why would you pay another freelancer $75? 

 

You have the skills and talent, you have the conception/idea of what you want, Hell, do it yourself and you wouldn't have to pay anyone anything.

prestonhunter
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Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
26 of 48

As a client, my time is valuable.

 

If a freelancer does poor quality work, I pay the freelancer and discard the work.

 

The freelancer is not paying me ANYTHING. If the freelancer was paying for my valuable time, then maybe the freelancer would deserve my time spent thinking about their shoddy work, evaluating it, explaining why it was bad, how they could improve, etc.

 

But the freelancer doesn't deserve any of that.

 

As a client, I am not going to elevate a freelancer's shoddy, unworthy work beyond its deserved status by thinking about it further or by trying to ensure that the freelancer "gets what he deserves."

kevngash
Active Member
Kevin N Member Since: Jan 23, 2017
27 of 48

He finally contacted me and I gave him the $20 option. Thank you Preston you gave the best advice. Kept it to the point and you explained it in the best way possible.

kevngash
Active Member
Kevin N Member Since: Jan 23, 2017
28 of 48

Hi Cathy. 

I also do proofreading, does it mean if I have a book Idea then I have to do it myself just because I proofread books?

Then what is the point of a client portal accessible to freelancers on this platform?

Also The topic was about the quality and someone requesting full payment for sketches and very bad sketches at that. How can you help me on that because you totally avoided the topic.

Regards.

 

e_luneborg
Community Guru
Eve L Member Since: Feb 17, 2017
29 of 48

Oh. You are one of those "unlimited revisions" and "100% money back guarantee" freelancers. Always wondered why someone would offer that.

 

This one is funny as well: "I'll purchase one of these Premium Stock photos for $5, or 3 Premium Stock Photos for $15 (for an exceptionally, unique design)." So what would the price for 2 be? 

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bobafett999
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Prashant P Member Since: Sep 29, 2015
30 of 48

@Eve L wrote:

This one is funny as well: "I'll purchase one of these Premium Stock photos for $5, or 3 Premium Stock Photos for $15 (for an exceptionally, unique design)." So what would the price for 2 be? 


 $9.99?

 

Eve you wrote,"Freelancing is a gamble - To win you need skill, luck and a strategy"

 

Nope:  Freelancing is gambling on slot machine - most of the time you will lose (at least that is true for me on Upwork as well as casinos).

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