Aug 15, 2019 05:14:57 AM Edited Sep 6, 2019 08:21:51 AM by Mark F
Has anyone besides me wondered why some people fixate on the community titles when they are irritated about what we post?
It's always some variation of "I would expect more from a community guru!"
Aug 15, 2019 05:38:27 AM by Preston H
Mark:
You pose an interesting question.
I really don't think much of it. The people who say something like this typically don't know that the titles are attached to our names automatically, based purely on the number of posts we have posted in the Forum.
Such a comment is not really logical. It's personal and emotional. It's like saying "I would expect something more from someone with a moustache."
I don't find it to be an interesting or substantive comment.
Aug 15, 2019 05:43:43 AM by Mark F
Preston H wrote:Mark:
You pose an interesting question.
I really don't think much of it. The people who say something like this typically don't know that the titles are attached to our names automatically, based purely on the number of posts we have posted in the Forum.
Such a comment is not really logical. It's personal and emotional. It's like saying "I would expect something more from someone with a moustache."
I don't find it to be an interesting or substantive comment.
The first time I noticed it used in that derogatory fashion, the very next day someone else used it that way and I my immediate thought it was two accounts. It just seemed such an odd expression. It is probably just that thing where once you notice something you can't stop noticing it (which google tells me is called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baader%E2%80%93Meinhof_effect).
Aug 15, 2019 06:50:23 AM by Jennifer M
I have a bit of a Nihilist outlook on life, but I generally think the people who rant about gurus would stab us in the back figuratively and literally if it meant they could take our place. Maybe that's why I LOL so much when I read their rants. They're on reddit too but on reddit I get to play with them.
It's like Jay Z says, with the same sword they knight you
they gon good night you with
Aug 15, 2019 07:07:43 AM by Preston H
re: "would stab us in the back figuratively and literally if it meant they could take our place."
They want to take our place as forum addicts?
Be careful what you wish for.
Aug 15, 2019 11:19:19 AM by Jennifer M
Preston H wrote:re: "would stab us in the back figuratively and literally if it meant they could take our place."
They want to take our place as forum addicts?
Be careful what you wish for.
Don't ask me why people want to be Upwork forum famous, but they do. They even want to be moderators on their first post.
Aug 15, 2019 07:53:20 AM by Mark F
Jennifer M wrote:I have a bit of a Nihilist outlook on life, but I generally think the people who rant about gurus would stab us in the back figuratively and literally if it meant they could take our place. Maybe that's why I LOL so much when I read their rants.
It's such a tough club to get into...just post a lot. Try to be helpful maybe a bit.
They're on reddit too but on reddit I get to play with them.
I haven't read anything on there yet that I was like, that's J but I want to figure it out. I don't even look at usernames because that is cheating. I think it will be hard to figure out because you are almost certainly more unrestrained.
Aug 15, 2019 08:12:04 AM by Martina P
Mark F wrote:
Jennifer M wrote:I have a bit of a Nihilist outlook on life, but I generally think the people who rant about gurus would stab us in the back figuratively and literally if it meant they could take our place. Maybe that's why I LOL so much when I read their rants.
It's such a tough club to get into...just post a lot. Try to be helpful maybe a bit.
They're on reddit too but on reddit I get to play with them.
I haven't read anything on there yet that I was like, that's J but I want to figure it out. I don't even look at usernames because that is cheating. I think it will be hard to figure out because you are almost certainly more unrestrained.
She is easy to identify because she calls everybody sweaty just like in the forum. (Gotcha, girl!)
Aug 15, 2019 09:02:08 AM by Mark F
She is easy to identify because she calls everybody sweaty just like in the forum. (Gotcha, girl!)
No, now I can't not look, it is like knowing a cheat code for a video game.
Aug 15, 2019 09:26:36 AM by Kelly B
Speaking for myself, when I first logged on I thought Community Gurus were Upwork representatives. I hope I'm not the only naive person here. I think their forum naming convention is not particularly intuitive.
Aug 15, 2019 10:26:54 AM by Mark F
Kelly B wrote:Speaking for myself, when I first logged on I thought Community Gurus were Upwork representatives. I hope I'm not the only naive person here. I think their forum naming convention is not particularly intuitive.
That's what I wonder to. I have definitely seen some people go after people because they thought they were being treated rude by an employee. There is also plenty of consiperacy theories that many of them are and are just posing as FL's. I think people who think like that are what Jennifer M calls "sweaties"...but I am not positive.
Aug 15, 2019 10:59:02 AM by Sergio S
Kelly B wrote:Speaking for myself, when I first logged on I thought Community Gurus were Upwork representatives. I hope I'm not the only naive person here.
Well, I was indeed going to mention that there are a great number of people who believe we are Upwork representatives.
Aug 15, 2019 11:17:16 AM by Martina P
Kelly B wrote:Speaking for myself, when I first logged on I thought Community Gurus were Upwork representatives. I hope I'm not the only naive person here. I think their forum naming convention is not particularly intuitive.
Same here. Picture my sheer delight when I realized that frequent posting assigns fancy titles!
Aug 20, 2019 01:59:28 PM by Douglas Michael M
Kelly B wrote:Speaking for myself, when I first logged on I thought Community Gurus were Upwork representatives. I hope I'm not the only naive person here. I think their forum naming convention is not particularly intuitive.
Some of us pray nightly for the utter abolition of the forum "ranks." We've given up on asking Upwork to do that very sensible thing.
Nov 13, 2020 06:15:35 AM Edited Nov 13, 2020 06:16:37 AM by Sein M
I had the same experience here at first thinking "Gurus" where represenitive of Upwork. I think a better naming system would be more transparent and better for newcomers.
Nov 23, 2020 06:41:51 PM by Samuel N
People can hide behind whatever titles.
Pay more attention to the tone and character.
It will help separate the sheep from the wolves.
And for the wolves:
There is just one Alpha. He protects his sheep by eating your heart.
so do better or become a feast for the lambs.
Aug 15, 2019 11:22:40 AM by Sheila F
Martina P wrote:
She is easy to identify because she calls everybody sweaty just like in the forum. (Gotcha, girl!)
About "sweaty".
Is that a typo of "sweetie"? First time I saw "sweaty" I took it to be a prejorative,
then wondered why it wasn't "Edited for Community Guidelines".
Aug 27, 2019 11:33:02 PM Edited Aug 27, 2019 11:37:27 PM by Ivan L
Such a comment is not really logical. It's personal and emotional. It's like saying "I would expect something more from someone with a moustache."
It's only illogical once you understand that the title is automatically assigned by a simple software algorithm. I don't think a lot of folks know that though.
Aug 15, 2019 11:34:01 AM by Phyllis G
My purely subjective, anecdotal take on it is people who fly off the handle at evil gurus consistently exhibit one or more of the following:
- They are not hearing what they want to hear (which is usually endorsement of their complaint and sympathy at their plight).
- They perceive everything negative as something that happens to them, rather than a result of choices they have made.
- They tend to have an "us v. them" mentality in general, displayed most often in rants about the evils of UW which spills over onto anybody who doesn't jump on their rant-wagon or, even worse, disagrees or challenges their reasoning.
- They are not interested in learning how others have addressed whatever problem they are experiencing, they just want to rant about it.
- They take everything personally, experiencing constructive criticism and/or disagreement with their stated position as personal attacks.
- They reduce every discussion to an ad hominem argument.
- They are unnecessarily belligerent, even in the face of calm and empathetic responses.
- They can be entertaining as all get-out.
Aug 15, 2019 04:43:04 PM by Kat C
Phyllis G wrote:My purely subjective, anecdotal take on it is people who fly off the handle at evil gurus consistently exhibit one or more of the following:
- They are not hearing what they want to hear (which is usually endorsement of their complaint and sympathy at their plight).
- They perceive everything negative as something that happens to them, rather than a result of choices they have made.
- They tend to have an "us v. them" mentality in general, displayed most often in rants about the evils of UW which spills over onto anybody who doesn't jump on their rant-wagon or, even worse, disagrees or challenges their reasoning.
- They are not interested in learning how others have addressed whatever problem they are experiencing, they just want to rant about it.
- They take everything personally, experiencing constructive criticism and/or disagreement with their stated position as personal attacks.
- They reduce every discussion to an ad hominem argument.
- They are unnecessarily belligerent, even in the face of calm and empathetic responses.
- They can be entertaining as all get-out.
That last point Phyllis...is why I come to the forums lol.
Aug 16, 2019 09:35:42 AM by Amanda L
Oh crap. I just became a "Community Leader." Let me make it clear now. I know nothing.
Aug 16, 2019 01:05:52 PM by Mark F
Amanda L wrote:Oh crap. I just became a "Community Leader." Let me make it clear now. I know nothing.
Actually the reason I even knew I had changed to Community Leader is that someone called me out saying I would expect more from a "community leader".
Just a title man, I didn't ask for it or even want it.
Aug 16, 2019 01:34:08 PM by Jennifer M
Mark F wrote:Actually the reason I even knew I had changed to Community Leader is that someone called me out saying I would expect more from a "community leader".
Just a title man, I didn't ask for it or even want it.
You're a community guru now. I expect more from you.
There is a lifecycle for every doe-eyed little noob that shows up on the forum. They start off all cute and precious and optimistic, and then after a few weeks of reading the people on here it's down the sarcasm path. It's the only path that keeps people sane when reading some of these people's post.
Aug 16, 2019 03:25:44 PM by Kelly B
Jennifer M wrote:
Mark F wrote:Actually the reason I even knew I had changed to Community Leader is that someone called me out saying I would expect more from a "community leader".
Just a title man, I didn't ask for it or even want it.
You're a community guru now. I expect more from you.
There is a lifecycle for every doe-eyed little noob that shows up on the forum. They start off all cute and precious and optimistic, and then after a few weeks of reading the people on here it's down the sarcasm path. It's the only path that keeps people sane when reading some of these people's post.
Sooo.... what exactly IS a sweaty? Inquiring minds want to know.
Signed, FL whose brain is boiling in the AZ desert.
Aug 17, 2019 11:02:25 AM by Sheila F
Central Texas here. "Sweaty" is what happens when you live in place that looks like this:
Typical August. I'm working this week so I can pay my electric bill this month. Last week it was to pay for the AC repair.
Aug 17, 2019 12:21:29 PM by Mark F
My kids use the term sweaty tryhard:
“Sweat” literally means that after a fight, the player was surely trying so hard to make a flashy play that they're sweating.
More detail here:
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sweaty%20Tryhard
Not positive that is what Jennifer means...
Aug 17, 2019 01:55:29 PM by Jennifer M
Kelly B wrote:
Jennifer M wrote:
Mark F wrote:Actually the reason I even knew I had changed to Community Leader is that someone called me out saying I would expect more from a "community leader".
Just a title man, I didn't ask for it or even want it.
You're a community guru now. I expect more from you.
There is a lifecycle for every doe-eyed little noob that shows up on the forum. They start off all cute and precious and optimistic, and then after a few weeks of reading the people on here it's down the sarcasm path. It's the only path that keeps people sane when reading some of these people's post.
Sooo.... what exactly IS a sweaty? Inquiring minds want to know.
Signed, FL whose brain is boiling in the AZ desert.
I'm a really bad speller! We need a rule that nobody can make fun of my spelling.
Aug 18, 2019 04:29:33 PM by Kelly B
Jennifer M wrote:
Kelly B wrote:
Jennifer M wrote:
Mark F wrote:Actually the reason I even knew I had changed to Community Leader is that someone called me out saying I would expect more from a "community leader".
Just a title man, I didn't ask for it or even want it.
You're a community guru now. I expect more from you.
There is a lifecycle for every doe-eyed little noob that shows up on the forum. They start off all cute and precious and optimistic, and then after a few weeks of reading the people on here it's down the sarcasm path. It's the only path that keeps people sane when reading some of these people's post.
Sooo.... what exactly IS a sweaty? Inquiring minds want to know.
Signed, FL whose brain is boiling in the AZ desert.
I'm a really bad speller! We need a rule that nobody can make fun of my spelling.
lol I am not trying to shame you I swear! I've just never heard the word used the way you use it. For example: "Yikes, sweaty. Freelancer shoulda run if you indeed said it wasn't complicated and simple to do for a competent coder. haha that's textbook "client to avoid." "
Aug 18, 2019 06:10:21 PM by Jennifer M
Kelly B wrote:lol I am not trying to shame you I swear! I've just never heard the word used the way you use it. For example: "Yikes, sweaty. Freelancer shoulda run if you indeed said it wasn't complicated and simple to do for a competent coder. haha that's textbook "client to avoid." "
It's ok I deserved to be shamed.
Here I am bustin my hump for da man and you guys shame me. Don't you know who I am? I'm a community guru gdammit.
Aug 19, 2019 12:28:19 AM by Richard W
Jennifer M wrote:
Kelly B wrote:lol I am not trying to shame you I swear! I've just never heard the word used the way you use it. For example: "Yikes, sweaty. Freelancer shoulda run if you indeed said it wasn't complicated and simple to do for a competent coder. haha that's textbook "client to avoid." "
It's ok I deserved to be shamed.
Here I am bustin my hump for da man and you guys shame me. Don't you know who I am? I'm a community guru gdammit.
At last! I only joined this thread to see some community gurus being shamed.
Aug 19, 2019 12:33:43 AM by Richard W
Richard W wrote:
Jennifer M wrote:
Kelly B wrote:lol I am not trying to shame you I swear! I've just never heard the word used the way you use it. For example: "Yikes, sweaty. Freelancer shoulda run if you indeed said it wasn't complicated and simple to do for a competent coder. haha that's textbook "client to avoid." "
It's ok I deserved to be shamed.
Here I am bustin my hump for da man and you guys shame me. Don't you know who I am? I'm a community guru gdammit.
At last! I only joined this thread to see some community gurus being shamed.
According to https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sweaty you were using the word correctly.
I guess I just un-shamed you. D--n.
Aug 19, 2019 03:18:07 AM Edited Aug 19, 2019 03:20:27 AM by Martina P
Jennifer M wrote:
Kelly B wrote:lol I am not trying to shame you I swear! I've just never heard the word used the way you use it. For example: "Yikes, sweaty. Freelancer shoulda run if you indeed said it wasn't complicated and simple to do for a competent coder. haha that's textbook "client to avoid." "
It's ok I deserved to be shamed.
Here I am bustin my hump for da man and you guys shame me. Don't you know who I am? I'm a community guru gdammit.
Naw, honest to gawd, nobody was shaming you. Us little freelancers were just wispering amongst ourselves about the meaning of sweaty, being in awe of your command of the language, suspecting you invented a word maybe that will be in standard use very soon? Besides, it's just fun to follow a thread with my tribe, the gurus, no lowly aces or such, just us elite!
Aug 19, 2019 04:40:19 AM by Mark F
Jennifer M wrote:
Kelly B wrote:lol I am not trying to shame you I swear! I've just never heard the word used the way you use it. For example: "Yikes, sweaty. Freelancer shoulda run if you indeed said it wasn't complicated and simple to do for a competent coder. haha that's textbook "client to avoid." "
It's ok I deserved to be shamed.
Here I am bustin my hump for da man and you guys shame me. Don't you know who I am? I'm a community guru gdammit.
Aug 19, 2019 02:19:02 PM by Rene K
Mark, the video snippet you posted is very short. I think I remember the scene was longer. And way more interesting.
Aug 20, 2019 01:23:07 PM Edited Aug 20, 2019 01:26:54 PM by Renata S
Amanda L wrote:Oh crap. I just became a "Community Leader." Let me make it clear now. I know nothing.
@Amanda
I notice that you haven't become a "solutions author" yet. Good for you!!!!
I think it's a little easier going if you don't come across as a "Community Learder" who can solve anything. So just keep focusing on not solving anything, and you should be fine. 🙂
Aug 20, 2019 02:08:28 PM Edited Aug 20, 2019 02:11:01 PM by Douglas Michael M
Renata S wrote:
Amanda L wrote:Oh crap. I just became a "Community Leader." Let me make it clear now. I know nothing.
@Amanda
I notice that you haven't become a "solutions author" yet. Good for you!!!!
I think it's a little easier going if you don't come across as a "Community Learder" who can solve anything. So just keep focusing on not solving anything, and you should be fine. 🙂
I had no idea there was a method to my (statistically verified) unhelpfulness.
Aug 21, 2019 06:21:11 PM Edited Aug 21, 2019 06:21:29 PM by Amanda L
Renata S wrote:
Amanda L wrote:Oh crap. I just became a "Community Leader." Let me make it clear now. I know nothing.
@Amanda
I notice that you haven't become a "solutions author" yet. Good for you!!!!
I think it's a little easier going if you don't come across as a "Community Learder" who can solve anything. So just keep focusing on not solving anything, and you should be fine. 🙂
Awesome. I'll make sure to keep making pointless comments that are completely unhelpful. Every forum needs a few of those...
Aug 23, 2019 01:16:27 AM by Richard W
Amanda L wrote:
Renata S wrote:
Amanda L wrote:Oh crap. I just became a "Community Leader." Let me make it clear now. I know nothing.
@Amanda
I notice that you haven't become a "solutions author" yet. Good for you!!!!
I think it's a little easier going if you don't come across as a "Community Learder" who can solve anything. So just keep focusing on not solving anything, and you should be fine. 🙂Awesome. I'll make sure to keep making pointless comments that are completely unhelpful. Every forum needs a few of those...
Very true. Without unhelpful comments there'd be nothing to criticise. And where's the fun in that?
Aug 28, 2019 05:16:25 PM by Amanda L
Richard W wrote:
Amanda L wrote:
Renata S wrote:
Amanda L wrote:Oh crap. I just became a "Community Leader." Let me make it clear now. I know nothing.
@Amanda
I notice that you haven't become a "solutions author" yet. Good for you!!!!
I think it's a little easier going if you don't come across as a "Community Learder" who can solve anything. So just keep focusing on not solving anything, and you should be fine. 🙂Awesome. I'll make sure to keep making pointless comments that are completely unhelpful. Every forum needs a few of those...
Very true. Without unhelpful comments there'd be nothing to criticise. And where's the fun in that?
Apparently I'm also top kudoed now. Is there a monetary prize for that? Or does UpWork charge for that honor too?
Aug 27, 2019 11:40:46 PM by Ivan L