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May 19, 2020 05:13:59 AM Edited May 19, 2020 05:14:43 AM by Aleksandr S
Jennifer R wrote:Oh, they know and they know about all their friend's birthdays as well. They know what they want for cake and of course the presents months ahead. They know better about their birthday then Xmas.
Our daughter once saw a child's colorful suitcase in the airport. Now when we ask her about a present, she answers: a suitcase! A 5yr old girls wants a suitcase!
May 19, 2020 05:25:39 AM by Petra R
Aleksandr S wrote:Our daughter once saw a child's colorful suitcase in the airport. Now when we ask her about a present, she answers: a suitcase! A 5yr old girls wants a suitcase!
All I ever wanted was a horse.
Is she getting a colourful suitcase??
Jennifer R wrote:
Oh, they know and they know about all their friend's birthdays as well. They know what they want for cake and of course the presents months ahead.
Ah, spot the non-mother lol. I didn't like birthdays as much because of the lack of a horse for so many of them...
May 19, 2020 05:40:46 AM Edited May 19, 2020 05:41:55 AM by Aleksandr S
Petra R wrote:
Aleksandr S wrote:Our daughter once saw a child's colorful suitcase in the airport. Now when we ask her about a present, she answers: a suitcase! A 5yr old girls wants a suitcase!
All I ever wanted was a horse.
Is she getting a colourful suitcase??
Jennifer R wrote:
Oh, they know and they know about all their friend's birthdays as well. They know what they want for cake and of course the presents months ahead.
Ah, spot the non-mother lol. I didn't like birthdays as much because of the lack of a horse for so many of them...
Of course, she is.
She also says she is going to carry it by herself, but we all know that it will last for 5 minutes only. Then here it goes "I'm tired!".
I fear she asks a horse (or worse, a unicorn) some day, she likes them too.
May 19, 2020 05:41:49 AM by Jennifer R
Aleksandr S wrote:
Jennifer R wrote:Oh, they know and they know about all their friend's birthdays as well. They know what they want for cake and of course the presents months ahead. They know better about their birthday then Xmas.
Our daughter once saw a child's colorful suitcase in the airport. Now when we ask her about a present, she answers: a suitcase! A 5yr old girls wants a suitcase!
My boy is totally into books and languages (apart from Lego). He wants Julia Donaldsons Highway Rat in English, German and Norwegian, because he cannot decide which version is best. A comploiment to the translators. We got the German audiobook of one of his favorite Norwegian books the other day and he keeps pointing out the "mistakes".
May 19, 2020 05:53:23 AM Edited May 19, 2020 06:00:56 AM by Aleksandr S
Jennifer R wrote:
Aleksandr S wrote:
Jennifer R wrote:Oh, they know and they know about all their friend's birthdays as well. They know what they want for cake and of course the presents months ahead. They know better about their birthday then Xmas.
Our daughter once saw a child's colorful suitcase in the airport. Now when we ask her about a present, she answers: a suitcase! A 5yr old girls wants a suitcase!
My boy is totally into books and languages (apart from Lego). He wants Julia Donaldsons Highway Rat in English, German and Norwegian, because he cannot decide which version is best. A comploiment to the translators. We got the German audiobook of one of his favorite Norwegian books the other day and he keeps pointing out the "mistakes".
A kid is keen on languages is something I cannot imagine. How old is he? What we mostly do is misbehaving, playing on the swings, and refusing to eat (except food from McDonalds and Papa Johns). She can read and knows simple English phrases and around a hundred of words, but she will never read or speak for nothing.
May 19, 2020 06:22:59 AM by Jennifer R
Aleksandr S wrote:
Jennifer R wrote:
Aleksandr S wrote:
Jennifer R wrote:Oh, they know and they know about all their friend's birthdays as well. They know what they want for cake and of course the presents months ahead. They know better about their birthday then Xmas.
Our daughter once saw a child's colorful suitcase in the airport. Now when we ask her about a present, she answers: a suitcase! A 5yr old girls wants a suitcase!
My boy is totally into books and languages (apart from Lego). He wants Julia Donaldsons Highway Rat in English, German and Norwegian, because he cannot decide which version is best. A comploiment to the translators. We got the German audiobook of one of his favorite Norwegian books the other day and he keeps pointing out the "mistakes".
A kid is keen on languages is something I cannot imagine. How old is he? What we mostly do is misbehaving, playing on the swings, and refusing to eat (except food from McDonalds and Papa Johns). She can read and knows simple English phrases and around a hundred of words, but she will never read or speak for nothing.
He is 41/2 and is becoming a walking dictionary. A building burned down in the neighbourhood last weekend and he engaged in a conversation with one of the fire fighters the next day. He learned (in Norwegian) that the fire engine has a water cannon. He called over his dad and told him about it in German just to then tell our Chinese friend (who lost her home in the fire) about the water cannon. This time in English after confirming that kanon is cannon in English.
May 19, 2020 06:24:30 AM Edited May 19, 2020 06:26:56 AM by Petra R
Aleksandr S wrote:I fear she asks a horse (or worse, a unicorn) some day, she likes them too.
Being serious for a minute... Getting a little girl into horses is just about the best thing any parent can do to help themselves stay sane during the kid's teenage years, Horses teach so much more than just sport. They are great levelers, they teach responsibility, kindness, fairness, teamwork and that actions have consequences. They teach that when it all goes wrong you must try harder. That when you fall off you get the hell back on. Each different horse teaches a different lesson, some more pleasant than others, all valuable.
They serve as friends and take up so much time that girls who are into horses spend so much time safe at the stables cleaning stalls, brushing horses, scrubbing tack, riding, spending time with others who love horses too, that they don't have (any or as much) time for stuff like boys and cigarettes and drugs and drinking and all the other stuff parents worry about. It may not eliminate all those things entirely, but for me they minimized or delayed my interest in them until I was old enough to handle them.
May 22, 2020 03:57:55 AM by Maria T
It's nice to see a graph falling like this
I usually look at the infections, and the USA leaves me amazed.
I hope they can deal with so many infected people. If not, it will be a disaster.
May 22, 2020 04:42:59 AM by Petra R
Maria T wrote:It's nice to see a graph falling like this
I usually look at the infections, and the USA leaves me amazed.
I hope they can deal with so many infected people. If not, it will be a disaster.
In fairness, personally I think the total infection numbers look scarier than necessary, simply because the number of people are so different from country to country.
We can't compare the numbers of a country with a population of 330 Million (USA) with a country like Norway with a population of 5 and a half Million.
So we should rather look at the numbers of total infections per million. The problem with that is that every country is on a different place on the curve. Even a week or 10 days difference from the outbreak makes a huge difference, that' why I kept saying "watch the Italian curve" a couple of months back, when people were still saying "Ah but we don't have many cases!"
When we look at the total cases per million, what is is concerning is that some countries are slowing down (flattening) and others aren't (yet) but again, they're not on the same point of their own timeline.
May 22, 2020 04:54:19 AM Edited May 22, 2020 04:54:59 AM by Maria T
Thanks for the chart Petra
Since there are so many options to choose from, and all in English, I go crazy to find what I want!
So we are above the USA! Ummmmh!
We will see how it evolves. Here the restrictions are being relaxed and, to be honest, I'm a little scared.
For now, people are being pretty silly. As soon as they have given a little freedom, it seems that they no longer remember the two months that have passed and the number of people who have died due this.
May 22, 2020 05:09:22 AM by Jennifer R
Petra R wrote:Maria T wrote:It's nice to see a graph falling like this
I usually look at the infections, and the USA leaves me amazed.
I hope they can deal with so many infected people. If not, it will be a disaster.
In fairness, personally I think the total infection numbers look scarier than necessary, simply because the number of people are so different from country to country.
We can't compare the numbers of a country with a population of 330 Million (USA) with a country like Norway with a population of 5 and a half Million.
So we should rather look at the numbers of total infections per million. The problem with that is that every country is on a different place on the curve. Even a week or 10 days difference from the outbreak makes a huge difference, that' why I kept saying "watch the Italian curve" a couple of months back, when people were still saying "Ah but we don't have many cases!"
When we look at the total cases per million, what is is concerning is that some countries are slowing down (flattening) and others aren't (yet) but again, they're not on the same point of their own timeline.
I have to add that Norway only tests people that needs to be hospitalised and work in health care and had contact with a confirmed infection.
May 22, 2020 05:25:39 AM by Petra R
Jennifer R wrote:I have to add that Norway only tests people that needs to be hospitalised and work in health care and had contact with a confirmed infection.
Hmmmm, it says here "Anyoone with symptoms and key groups?"
And overall, per million, Norway is testing in the same ballpark as other countries
May 22, 2020 05:51:58 AM by Phyllis G
A new wrinkle for USians: we just learned that the CDC and some states have been reporting combined results of viral and antibody tests. It's completely distorting the big picture so the public can't really know how many people are sick or how many have been exposed. And making it impossible for epidemiologists to interpret either result.
May 22, 2020 08:42:06 AM by Kelly B
Navajo Nation, partially in my state of AZ, and in Utah and NM as well, now has the highest infection rate in the country at something like 2300 per 100k. The death rate is still surprisingly below Italy and Spain though at somewhere in the mid 40s.
Russia and Brazil are looking concerning as well.
I'm quite concerned about the amount of spikes we're going to see here two weeks from this Memorial Day weekend when it looks like many people are going to throw caution to the wind.
May 22, 2020 09:16:43 AM by Phyllis G
Kelly B wrote:Navajo Nation, partially in my state of AZ, and in Utah and NM as well, now has the highest infection rate in the country at something like 2300 per 100k. The death rate is still surprisingly below Italy and Spain though at somewhere in the mid 40s.
Russia and Brazil are looking concerning as well.
I'm quite concerned about the amount of spikes we're going to see here two weeks from this Memorial Day weekend when it looks like many people are going to throw caution to the wind.
I share your concern.
May 22, 2020 01:38:54 PM by Jennifer R
Petra R wrote:
Jennifer R wrote:I have to add that Norway only tests people that needs to be hospitalised and work in health care and had contact with a confirmed infection.
Hmmmm, it says here "Anyoone with symptoms and key groups?"
And overall, per million, Norway is testing in the same ballpark as other countries
Hospital staff got tested several times but so far they only 200 people out of 30k in my town. Most back in March and they closed the "Corona center" last week because noone was placed there.
May 24, 2020 01:29:20 PM by Valerio S
Petra R wrote:Added Norway and New Zealand for Valerio and Jennifer 🙂
Thank you!
In the last few days we had just a couple of reported cases mostly from one single known cluster. Life on this side of the world is almost back to normal, it's weird to check in and out every time you enter/leave a shop or bar, but we definitely cannot complain.
To spice things up, this morning we've been woken up by an earthquake.
May 24, 2020 10:18:25 PM by Petra R
Valerio S wrote:In the last few days we had just a couple of reported cases mostly from one single known cluster. Life on this side of the world is almost back to normal, it's weird to check in and out every time you enter/leave a shop or bar, but we definitely cannot complain.
Check in and out? How does that work? Is it just to make sure the maximum number of people is not exceeded or is there an actual ID check or recording of who was where when?
Valerio S wrote:To spice things up, this morning we've been woken up by an earthquake.
Hope nothing's broken 🙂
May 25, 2020 12:47:28 AM by Valerio S
Petra R wrote:
Valerio S wrote:In the last few days we had just a couple of reported cases mostly from one single known cluster. Life on this side of the world is almost back to normal, it's weird to check in and out every time you enter/leave a shop or bar, but we definitely cannot complain.
Check in and out? How does that work? Is it just to make sure the maximum number of people is not exceeded or is there an actual ID check or recording of who was where when?
The system is fairly easy, when you enter the premises you have to scan a QR code with an app and check-out when you leave, the data collected is only used (hopefully) if someone will test positive in order to trace all the people that he/she has been in contact with, in that case it would prompt a message on your phone (I think, it didn't happen yet).
Some places are not using apps, but they ask you to fill a form with your contact details and the time when you arrived (no check-out though, which makes it rather useless).
May 25, 2020 02:27:46 AM by Petra R
Valerio S wrote:Check in and out? How does that work? Is it just to make sure the maximum number of people is not exceeded or is there an actual ID check or recording of who was where when?
The system is fairly easy, when you enter the premises you have to scan a QR code with an app and check-out when you leave, the data collected is only used (hopefully) if someone will test positive in order to trace all the people that he/she has been in contact with, in that case it would prompt a message on your phone (I think, it didn't happen yet).
I can see the tin-hat-brigade and the conspiracy theorists have a field day with that... Or do sensible countries not have those?
May 25, 2020 08:16:09 AM by Mary W
Where I live, we sign in when we go to a store,, with name, telephone number, date and time. The reason is contact checking in case someone that works there, or shopped there around your time of entry, tests positive. In Louisiana, people are outraged. In Mississippi, people are compliant. It only makes sense. I'm sure the information could be obtained from charge receipts (they ask that we only use plastic, no cash) but it would be expensive and time consuming. Dozens of people have been hired to actually do the notifications.
In Missouri, a hairdresser went to work with active Covid and was in contact with at least 140 people. Contact tracing is important, IMO.
May 25, 2020 01:02:05 PM by Kelly B
I feel bad for that hairdresser. She tried to get tested more than once and couldn't, because she didn't have a fever. And though I'm sure she wanted to stay home from work, you can't collect unemployment when your place of employment has reopened, and I don't think a lot of hairdressers in the U.S. have paid sick leave.
We continue to be unable to provide the amount of testing we need if we're going to continue to open up.