Aug 20, 2019 01:16:11 PM by Tom Z
Anyone feel any changes in proposals or work here in the current economy?
Aug 23, 2019 05:13:54 AM by Christine A
Tom Z wrote:Anyone feel any changes in proposals or work here in the current economy?
Whose current economy? America's? There MIGHT be an economic downturn on the horizon, but it hasn't happened yet.
When I look at your profile, you seem to be getting loads of work and making really good money, so I don't understand why you make these worried posts every couple of days?
Aug 23, 2019 09:42:27 AM by Tom Z
I make OK money -- I'm just a bit concerned because usually end of August is when I get crazy amounts of proposals and it's been quiet - ever since the update.
Aug 23, 2019 09:43:58 AM by Mark F
Tom Z wrote:I make OK money -- I'm just a bit concerned because usually end of August is when I get crazy amounts of proposals and it's been quiet - ever since the update.
Do you mean invites?
Because proposals is the thing you send back to a client, not the the thing you get from a client. Or do you mean job postings?
Aug 23, 2019 09:49:43 AM by Tom Z
Oh yes, invites, and jobs. Very meager. Another guy posted on here Upwork has been slacking in google rankings in job searches in my field so that may be another.
Aug 23, 2019 10:25:50 AM by Mark F
Tom Z wrote:Oh yes, invites, and jobs. Very meager. Another guy posted on here Upwork has been slacking in google rankings in job searches in my field so that may be another.
Slacking?
I think you and I have very different expectations for Upwork really.
Aug 23, 2019 10:40:16 AM by Christine A
Mark F wrote:
Tom Z wrote:Oh yes, invites, and jobs. Very meager. Another guy posted on here Upwork has been slacking in google rankings in job searches in my field so that may be another.
Slacking?
I think you and I have very different expectations for Upwork really.
$5K in new projects from June/July plus thousands more from 46 jobs in progress (!), and yet Tom is always in the forum commiserating with newbies who've made little or nothing on Upwork. I wish that I had such problems!
Aug 24, 2019 09:50:21 AM by Tom Z
I am a newbie honestly - most of you have been on here much longer than I have, so I'm learning the ropes. I saw this guy with like an impressive 500k, and another lady with impressive 3M profile -- sometimes I am a bit "concerned for nothing" I guess. You know this job is lonely and you guys are my friends in a way and just wanted to get some input on the current situation.
Aug 24, 2019 09:55:40 AM by Wassim T
Aug 24, 2019 03:01:49 PM by Jennifer M
Tom Z wrote:I am a newbie honestly - most of you have been on here much longer than I have, so I'm learning the ropes. I saw this guy with like an impressive 500k, and another lady with impressive 3M profile -- sometimes I am a bit "concerned for nothing" I guess. You know this job is lonely and you guys are my friends in a way and just wanted to get some input on the current situation.
You've been here since 2015.
Aug 25, 2019 11:12:28 AM by Jennifer M
Tom Z wrote:Not really, I probably created the account back then.
Your oldest job was from late 2015, so you have been active since then.
Aug 24, 2019 04:02:38 PM by Rene K
Tom Z wrote:you guys are my friends
Aug 24, 2019 09:22:26 AM Edited Aug 24, 2019 09:37:09 AM by Wassim T
Aug 24, 2019 09:43:19 AM by Mark F
Wassim T wrote:
The fear of big economy change never clicked for me, whether global or local.
I mean, if the problem is affecting another 350 million people nationwide, or 7 billion people worldwide, what makes you so special that you don't want a crisis to affect you but are OK with everyone else's suffering?
Like this saying:
“Recession is when your neighbor loses his job. Depression is when you lose yours."
Aug 25, 2019 03:10:20 AM by Christine A
I think that freelancers have less to worry about during a recession than permanent workers do. When a recession hits, companies will lay off employees and/or impose a hiring freeze, which could result in them needing more freelancers, not fewer. I weathered the last recession with no noticeable decline in work.
Aug 25, 2019 11:16:13 AM by Jennifer M
Christine A wrote:I think that freelancers have less to worry about during a recession than permanent workers do. When a recession hits, companies will lay off employees and/or impose a hiring freeze, which could result in them needing more freelancers, not fewer. I weathered the last recession with no noticeable decline in work.
I always went for the contractor jobs, and while contractors have to know they are only there temporarily, you are right that companies come to us more during a recessing because we're cheaper in the long-run. We're a tax write-off too. Not sure how w-2 works but 1099-ers are a tax write-off.
Aug 25, 2019 11:22:58 AM by Mark F
Jennifer M wrote:
Christine A wrote:I think that freelancers have less to worry about during a recession than permanent workers do. When a recession hits, companies will lay off employees and/or impose a hiring freeze, which could result in them needing more freelancers, not fewer. I weathered the last recession with no noticeable decline in work.
I always went for the contractor jobs, and while contractors have to know they are only there temporarily, you are right that companies come to us more during a recessing because we're cheaper in the long-run. We're a tax write-off too. Not sure how w-2 works but 1099-ers are a tax write-off.
I am not sure the tax write-off is all that much different but for a public company it definitely shows up on the books differently.
Aug 25, 2019 01:12:35 PM by Jennifer M
Mark F wrote:I am not sure the tax write-off is all that much different but for a public company it definitely shows up on the books differently.
I am still trying to figure out how to make my new TVs a part of R&D for the tax writeoff. I want to be a SmartTV dev. WRITE OFF R&D!
Aug 25, 2019 03:35:14 PM by Mark F
Jennifer M wrote:
Mark F wrote:I am not sure the tax write-off is all that much different but for a public company it definitely shows up on the books differently.
I am still trying to figure out how to make my new TVs a part of R&D for the tax writeoff. I want to be a SmartTV dev. WRITE OFF R&D!
Seems totally legit to me...
Aug 25, 2019 01:10:50 PM by Tom Z
Thank you Christine, that helps - like I said, it's nice to learn from you guys.