Jan 8, 2022 10:57:28 AM by Dennis P
There is a trend which is on the rise day by day and freelance your are not monitoring it. Some people with no experience in IT are starting companies like XY Solutions, YZ Tech and sometimes using generic office words. For this read I use “Company A” for my next paragraphs.
Company A post a job that they are looking for expert developers by mentioning all technologies, skills and domains and make a list of available candidates. The selected candidates are experts, have good profile and get hired on the rate of choice for example lets say an “Expert D“ is hired with 40$ per hour by “Company A”
“Company A” apply in all remote jobs and tell they have expert remote developers.
“HealthTechABC” a leading company which is looking to hire a full time (40 hours a week) remote developer in React receives an email that “Company A” provides a remote developer with 100$ per hour. “HealthTechABC” requests for interview with “Expert D” and after interview decides to hire “Expert D”
“Company A” gets 100$ per hour from HealthTechABC and pays 40$ per hour to “Expert D”
Until this point its fine and it looks reasonable right. ? Yes but No, lets see the dark side
“Expert D” appears in all the meeting, stand ups and planning and “HealthTechABC” folks thinks ”Expert D” is coding and doing all the development and updating Jira and Confluence. No this not the case.
“Company A” post another job and put a limit on hours to 25 hour a week and hires a developer with budget 3$ to 20$ an hour from third world country. Lets name it “Actual D”
“Company A” is online 24 hours and ask status from “Actual D” who is working on low rate.” Company A” ask for time-sheets and look each screenshot from the time tracking apps. They use slack channels and Skype and fake email accounts sometimes. The interesting thing is that sometimes “Company A” even says to “Actual D” that log hours are tool high, if 3 or 4 screens have no activity, “Company A” ask for explanation which is unfair because “HealthTechABC” is already paying for 40$ a week so “Company A” have to be greedy. “Actual D” is thinking also and time logging can be idle – just like working in office. “Actual D” is told to use “Expert D” user name and user emai in committing the code.
In the end message to companies like “HealthTechABC “ Talent has no country, It is available all over the world. “Actual D” should get the money that “HealthTechABC” is paying to “Company A”. Why Man in the middle (“Company A”) is taking money without actually doing anything and “Expert D” are also part of the process in (“Company A”) so there is some dark business going on that companies like “HealthTechABC” are not aware about.
“Expert D” are also taking 40$ from other clients with “Company A” and appearing in other companies stand ups, meetings and plannings as well. Its a lot of money…
Why its is too hard for companies like “HealthTechABC” to actually hire people from freelance website and not thru recruiting agencies."
What should be done in this case?
Jan 9, 2022 04:36:09 PM by Preston H
Maybe one reason that some clients prefer to hire freelancers from Ukraine is that freelancers from Ukraine don't lie about where they live.
Jan 10, 2022 07:09:13 AM Edited Jan 10, 2022 07:09:34 AM by Dennis P
Preston H wrote:Maybe one reason that some clients prefer to hire freelancers from Ukraine is that freelancers from Ukraine don't lie about where they live.
And how do you justify the "Actual D" sitting in Russia or South Asia and using the VPN to fake the location to Ukraine and working in the name of "Expert D" for "HealthTechABC" and using the Identity and profile of "Expert D"
Are you suggesting that things like that really do not matter for Upwork ?
Jan 10, 2022 08:04:31 AM by Christine A
Dennis P wrote:
Are you suggesting that things like that really do not matter for Upwork ?
Of course they matter - that's why I said that you will probably get your account banned. "The middleman made me do it" won't be a valid defense.
Jan 10, 2022 10:37:26 AM Edited Jan 10, 2022 10:38:09 AM by Preston H
re: "And how do you justify the 'Actual D' sitting in Russia or South Asia and using the VPN to fake the location to Ukraine and working in the name of 'Expert D' for 'HealthTechABC' and using the Identity and profile of 'Expert D' Are you suggesting that things like that really do not matter for Upwork?"
Um... No.
I'm not suggesting anything like that and I'm not making excuses for anybody.
But this is logical:
If tons of freelancers living in Fauxania are always faking things on their profile pages, including their location, and claiming that they live some place else... Or if tons of freelancers living in Fauxania are always claiming that they can do all kind of things that they really don't know how to do... Then clients will get suspicious of freelancers living in Fauxania and won't want to hire them.
Is that fair to the 80% of freelancers living in Fauxania who are honest about who they are and about what their skills are?
No. That is not fair.
But that is what is going to happen. There is nothing that I can do about it, and there is nothing that Upwork can do about it. The only people can put a stop to this are the people of Fauxania.
Jan 10, 2022 01:56:10 PM Edited Jan 11, 2022 12:02:29 AM by Dennis P
Preston H wrote:re: "And how do you justify the 'Actual D' sitting in Russia or South Asia and using the VPN to fake the location to Ukraine and working in the name of 'Expert D' for 'HealthTechABC' and using the Identity and profile of 'Expert D' Are you suggesting that things like that really do not matter for Upwork?"
Um... No.
I'm not suggesting anything like that and I'm not making excuses for anybody.
But this is logical:
If tons of freelancers living in Fauxania are always faking things on their profile pages, including their location, and claiming that they live some place else... Or if tons of freelancers living in Fauxania are always claiming that they can do all kind of things that they really don't know how to do... Then clients will get suspicious of freelancers living in Fauxania and won't want to hire them.
Is that fair to the 80% of freelancers living in Fauxania who are honest about who they are and about what their skills are?
No. That is not fair.
But that is what is going to happen. There is nothing that I can do about it, and there is nothing that Upwork can do about it. The only people can put a stop to this are the people of Fauxania.
So reading your comment we see that you are putting everything on the freelancers and trying to escape from this exploit.
It also reflects that:
Ask the IT Specialist in Upwork they will know how to find this anomaly, We see Upwork also hires on Upwork so it should not be hard to find this aynomaly given the fact Upwork has access to its own production database 😀
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