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Un ethical job posting

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Julian D Member Since: Dec 6, 2018
1 of 15

Hi all,

 

I'm new to Upwork, but was pretty horrified to come across a job posting... "Image manipulator required, to make people look fatter and thinner, before and after images for a weight loss brand"

 

How is this possible? Is there no vetting of jobs posted?

 

  

Community Guru
Luce N Member Since: Oct 9, 2016
2 of 15

Hi Julian,

 

All you have to do is flag the offer (click on the green flag on the job offer) and Upwork will see what it should do about it. 

 

My specialty is to flag jobs where someone wants an article to be "rewritten", or to write a review on Amazon or on other site... 

 

There are all sort of clients here, and some don't seem to have the same ethics as you and me.

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Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
3 of 15

Julian, this does not appear to violate any Upwork TOS.

It would therefore be wrong for you to flag it or complain about it.

 

If a job violates your own personal beliefs, then don't apply for it. But your own personal beliefs are not a reason for removing job postings.

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Julian D Member Since: Dec 6, 2018
4 of 15

Preston, that's why I use the term unethical. I may not violate the TOS, but it's still wrong! It's called the 'grey' area, not everything is black and white.

 

I think you'll find that the majority would feel this is unacceptable.

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Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
5 of 15

Yes. I agree.

 

So it is legitimate to discuss this topic in the Forum. It is fine to suggest that Upwork should add a new prohibition, such as a prohibition against photo manipulation of people in specific circumstances... Or a prohibition against jobs that involve advertising alcohol. Or pork. There are many potential new prohibitions.

 

All I am saying is that Upwork users need to have these discussions in the correct place. If a job posting strikes you as unethical but is not prohibited by Upwork, then definitely we should not impose our personal beliefs on other freelancers or tie up limited Upwork resources by flagging it. We should discuss it in the Forum and ask for a change to the TOS.

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Julian D Member Since: Dec 6, 2018
6 of 15

Preston, you're missing the point. 

 

So a weight loss clinic wants their before and after pictures manipulating. "Look how fat I was when I started the programme, Wow, look how much weight I lost on the programme 12 weeks later." It's fraud, it's not true, it's false advertising and would be pulled by the ASA.

 

Do you not see?

 

Do you think it is ok to post jobs wanting to retouch birth certificated, manipulate a drivers license or forge a passport.

 

That's why there SHOULD be the facility to report an unethical job posting.

 

I'll leave it there.

Community Guru
Luce N Member Since: Oct 9, 2016
7 of 15

@Julian D wrote:

Preston, you're missing the point. 

 

So a weight loss clinic wants their before and after pictures manipulating. "Look how fat I was when I started the programme, Wow, look how much weight I lost on the programme 12 weeks later." It's fraud, it's not true, it's false advertising and would be pulled by the ASA.

 

Do you not see?

 

Do you think it is ok to post jobs wanting to retouch birth certificated, manipulate a drivers license or forge a passport.

 

That's why there SHOULD be the facility to report an unethical job posting.

 

I'll leave it there.


 In this case, it would be an absolutely unethical lie!

Community Guru
Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
8 of 15

@Julian D wrote:

Do you think it is ok to post jobs wanting to retouch birth certificated, manipulate a drivers license or forge a passport.


No, because that is illegal, not unethical.

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Julian D Member Since: Dec 6, 2018
9 of 15
OMG Petra, I think you're missing the point too...
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Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
10 of 15

@Julian D wrote:
OMG Petra, I think you're missing the point too...

 Well, one of us is.

 

Upwork has terms of service which do not include "unethical" - "questionable" - "unfair" - "not politically correct" - "not adhering to some taste, religious belief, ethical standard, cultural norm, etc etc etc."

 

If you encounter job posts that violate the terms of service, flag them.

If your encounter job posts which you consider "unethical" but which do not violate the terms of service, roll your eyes and move on.

 

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