In May 2017 I received a message from Upwork with a special promotion with 0% fee when I bring my own client to Upwork (I am a Top rated freelancer) and I received an invitation linked to send it to my client for register and activate this 0% fee. A few days ago, I send it to my client and he registered and started a Upwork contract and now, when the contracted is just ended I realized that I have standard 20% fee. What to do in this situation? It's obvious that I was not intended to bring my client to pay 20% to Upwork.
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Surely Upwork cannot be serious!? Why would a provider even consider this?
For all of the reasons mentioned by other "Oh hell no!" providers, I see no professional value in bringing more clients here when we providers (and Upwork's clients, the people whose projects we complete) get so little in return.
Upwork deson't help new clients write decent project descriptions so I bypass most of them looking for ones that actually detail what's wanted (about one in ten) so I don't waste connects weeding out additional ones that aren't a good match for my skills. (Most job descriptions don't even list the parameters of the project or name the topic or target audience so there's no way to tell if the budget they've listed is adequate or of it's something I'd even be good at or want to do.) Upwork isn't serving their customers by allowing them to get away with providing too little information for a provider to make a decision as to whether or not to pursue a particular project.
I don't consider this a fair or particularly viable platform. (It serves Upwork very well--I'm sure it's extremely lucrative for them--but everyone else has to slog through quicksand to get anywhere on it.) It's clunky, slow, unresponsive, and downright infuriating because Upwork advertises itself as offering cheap labor so 99.9% of the clients who come here are looking for excellent-quality work at sweatshop prices...
Someone will come along someday who does this better and gives Upwork a run for its money. I'm only here because I have an excellent track record and am a Top-Rated provider after ten years so people invite me to bid on their projects. Upwork's percentages are outlandish for the scant services they provide: an intro to someone who probably only wants one project completed (if they're looking for a writer) and a financial accounting of what happened. 20% of a $500 writing project is ludicrous.
When I do look for work here, it takes literally HOURS to find decent-paying projects. Most of the ones that I submit quotes on fall to other providers outside the U.S. (most of whom aren't native speakers and learned the British way of writing, which doesn't sell well in the U.S.) who can afford to do the work for less since their cost of living is less where they live. As a sad result, I have to charge at least $100/hour for original copy and content work just to compensate for the shoddy, slow, unhelpful way in which this platform operates in order to make staying here viable. I might make $35/hour when I take into account the scores of project descriptions I have to sidestep and slog through to get to the handful that are right for me and pay well enough to make staying here viable.
Upwork should be PAYING its top providers to remain here (or allowing us to stay for free with unlimited connects and then taking its percentage of projects completed by us) if it wants to be fair. It shouldn't be asking us to bring more people in who can then look at other providers who can compete against us.
This looks like a BIG WIN proposition for Upwork and a big HA HA (LOSE) for its providers. Am I missing something?
That's my take on it, anyway...
I discussed with my client the possibility of moving over to upwork, and their main concern was the amount of time it would take from the date of their payment to get into my Paypal account.
I wouldn't have minded, except that I can't wait 14 days to buy my wife's insulin and cardiac-related meds if we run out of our stash of meds at home. Upwork isn't liable for hospitalization caused by hypo/hyperglycemia or possible strokes, which would happen if she went without her meds for over a day.
So... best of luck to everyone else! 🙂
lol while somewhat true, i did recently bring a client over from Fiverr. Fiverr is notoriously stupid with their 20% fees, and it takes 2 weeks to get payment. Most of my Upwork clients are on a fixed rate basis, so payment only takes about 5 days from the time they release funds. That's still a bit long, considering it's already been held in escrow. But still. Not as bad as the hourly contracts.
For my other offsite clients, I've just been using PayPal, and until Upwork gets rid of the waiting period I'll probably continue to do so.
@Vadim M wrote:
My client already registrated without any link 🙂
Can I still reduce fee?
I believe you have to be top rated to qualify for the special offer and the whole point of the link is for it to be used by eligible freelancers and clients who are not already on the platformm.
Bump... 2 weeks with no response? My Account is now private even though I am working with clients... What the heck is going on there at Upwork?? Ya'll on autopilot or what?
If an established freelancer doesn't earn money on Upwork for 30 days, their profile visibility will automatically change to private. You may read more about this initiative here. The Customer Support Team has already reverted back your profile to public as requested on your suppor ticket.
I will check with the team about your "Bring Your Own Client" link and they should reach out to you, or I will update you on this thread.
@Md Rahmat Ullah R wrote:
Thank you Ryan. I have all the criteria except 12 months of earning more than 1000. I have to wait till i crosss it. Thanks.
It's $ 1000 in the last 12 months, not $ 1000 in total...