Jul 30, 2019 09:00:35 PM by Debroto H
All freelancers need to 100 Bids Per Month for $10
Aug 1, 2019 07:45:33 AM by Melanie H
Could a rise in proposals be due to the clients' 3-invite limitation? Fewer invites from clients will naturally mean freelancers have to reach out more.
Aug 1, 2019 07:50:06 AM by Jonathan H
Yes, i guess that could be a factor i suppose! Though i am not sure how many invites was 'usual' before the change?
Aug 1, 2019 08:11:52 AM by Petra R
Jonathan H wrote:Yes, i guess that could be a factor i suppose! Though i am not sure how many invites was 'usual' before the change?
I think (and again that might depend on the niche and level within the niche) that the more specialised the contract and the higher the budget or rate acceptable to the client, the less invites get sent out.
Many of my nice big and favourite contracts came from invites with very few invited freelancers. I generally don't even bother applying when 10 or more are invited, those tend to be more entry level/ low budget jobs.
Aug 1, 2019 08:19:21 AM by Kelly B
Melanie H wrote:Could a rise in proposals be due to the clients' 3-invite limitation? Fewer invites from clients will naturally mean freelancers have to reach out more.
I wondered that as well. It strikes me as maybe not the best idea to change a lot of things at once, because then you can't discern which change is having which effect. I'm busy for now, so I'll just hope I stay that way.
Aug 1, 2019 08:23:26 AM by Petra R
Kelly B wrote:
Melanie H wrote:Could a rise in proposals be due to the clients' 3-invite limitation? Fewer invites from clients will naturally mean freelancers have to reach out more.
I wondered that as well. It strikes me as maybe not the best idea to change a lot of things at once, because then you can't discern which change is having which effect. I'm busy for now, so I'll just hope I stay that way.
Ah, but if you're going to really shake stuff up it can be best to get it over and done with once and for all and weather the storm only once, followed by calm once everyone gets used to it or leaves.
Especially for a listed company one beepstorm is likely better than two.
Aug 2, 2019 11:59:35 AM by Douglas Michael M
Petra R wrote:
Kelly B wrote:
Melanie H wrote:Could a rise in proposals be due to the clients' 3-invite limitation? Fewer invites from clients will naturally mean freelancers have to reach out more.
I wondered that as well. It strikes me as maybe not the best idea to change a lot of things at once, because then you can't discern which change is having which effect. I'm busy for now, so I'll just hope I stay that way.
Ah, but if you're going to really shake stuff up it can be best to get it over and done with once and for all and weather the storm only once, followed by calm once everyone gets used to it or leaves.
Especially for a listed company one beepstorm is likely better than two.
Kelly raises a major problem for a company that claims its policy decisions are based on marketplace metrics, which I am inclined to believe. I have serious misgivings about the interpretations they bring to single metrics. I cannot see how they can expect to get decent data on the effects of changes, let alone interpret them properly, when they throw a handful of new dynamics into the blender at once.
Aug 2, 2019 01:29:43 AM by Richard L
Melanie,
I didn't know they limited clients to 3 invites. 5 probably would have been better, but limiting is actually a great idea. I was getting invites for things that had nothing to do with the work I do.
I'm glad to see that at least some of the new policies make sense.
Aug 2, 2019 01:02:22 AM by Richard L
Tiffany,
Did you really meet with immediate success on Upwork? Did you have your first proposal approved?
I'm not defending this guy if he is indeed what Jonathan said, but I wonder what your motivation is in belittling people who are starting. Almost 3 years ago I set up an account to check things out and I didn't really use it. I dabbled with a few applications, changed my profile over time, realized I was targeting the wrong market and switched my focus. Gawd bless if you were an immediate success here. I can't say I was or that I considered it as a viable means of earning.
I finally started taking it seriously when I got a decent contract after raising my rates (I was getting nothing and then went the other way). I only apply to a few interesting jobs a month now and am coasting on my free connects still. It is only because I've had some success.
I hope you can really become the newbie tutor that you say you are and be positive about your posts. It can't be fun to hold all that frustration.
Have a better day.
Aug 2, 2019 01:54:43 AM Edited Aug 2, 2019 02:00:30 AM by Petra R
Richard L wrote:Tiffany,
Did you really meet with immediate success on Upwork? Did you have your first proposal approved?
I'm not defending this guy if he is indeed what Jonathan said, but I wonder what your motivation is in belittling people who are starting.
The guy Jonathan mentioned is not the OP, and the OP is not starting out, he is top rated with thousands of hours and hundreds of contracts under his belt.
If he still needs 100 applications (not connects but bids) a month, then I'd say what Tiffany said makes sense.
Also, the OP's statement that all (!) freelancers need (!) 100 bids a month for $ 10 is factually incorrect. Not only do not all freelancers need that many, nobody had 100 bids a month for $ 10, ever. People had 30 free, or 35 for $ 10. If everyone, or even just newbies, had 100 that would spam clients into oblivion...
Aug 2, 2019 03:36:58 AM by Christine A
Richard L wrote:
I hope you can really become the newbie tutor that you say you are and be positive about your posts. It can't be fun to hold all that frustration.
I see that you took exception to my similar comments. So what would a "positive" post look like? Should we tell the OP that he should continue spending his time and money making 100 bids per month?
Aug 2, 2019 03:50:38 AM Edited Aug 2, 2019 03:51:39 AM by Petra R
Christine A wrote:
Richard L wrote:
I hope you can really become the newbie tutor that you say you areI see that you took exception to my similar comments. So what would a "positive" post look like? Should we tell the OP that he should continue spending his time and money making 100 bids per month?
I'd be more interested to find out where Tiffany has ever claimed to be a newbie tutor...
Aug 1, 2019 12:53:43 PM Edited Aug 1, 2019 12:56:45 PM by Abinadab A
Debroto H wrote:All freelancers need to 100 Bids Per Month for $10
There's another freelancer platform that does exactly this, Truelancer, and it's just garbage.
Go there and see for yourself.
You won't believe the level of spam that will greet your eyes. You'll even see a job posting with up to 140 proposals, and not one freelancer can do the task. Not a one.
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