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6 connects for Entry level job?

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Rahul V Member Since: Nov 23, 2015
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I just came across a job where client is looking for entry level freelancers but cost of posting proposal is 6 connects??

 

what exactly is going on? why 6 connects for entry level job?

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Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
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Rahul V wrote:

I just came across a job where client is looking for entry level freelancers but cost of posting proposal is 6 connects??


An entry-level job can last for months or years and be worth hundreds or thousands.

What's your point? The algorithm that determines the connects is flawed, but nobody ever suggested it had anything to do with whether the job was entry-level or expert.

 

 

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Rahul V Member Since: Nov 23, 2015
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but how can it be worth thousands when client is just asking for 5-10 banner images? and one last thing that needs to be changed is algorithm...

 

life of freelancers will be much easier without algorithm

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Christine A Member Since: May 4, 2016
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Rahul V wrote:

but how can it be worth thousands when client is just asking for 5-10 banner images? and one last thing that needs to be changed is algorithm...

 

life of freelancers will be much easier without algorithm


I think what will eventually happen is that Upwork will have to go back to just having a flat connect rate for every project. The difference in price between 2 connects, 4 connects and 6 connects is negligible, but the fact that there IS a difference was bound to lead to lots of complaints about projects being unfairly priced, and I don't see how it's going to be possible to fix this to everyone's satisfaction. Just don't be surprised if they decide to implement a flat rate of 6 connects for every project; be careful what you wish for.

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Ankit J Member Since: Mar 1, 2019
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I agree with you, If we have premium Membership and can get 70 connect a month, we can only have 11 bids a month As I have seen almost all Jobs require 6 connects to bid. So I think that flat rate would be better and very helpful for all, As we all know that It's not something that we can get 1 project even after 7 bids.

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Tiffany S Member Since: Jan 15, 2016
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Ankit J wrote:

I agree with you, If we have premium Membership and can get 70 connect a month, we can only have 11 bids a month As I have seen almost all Jobs require 6 connects to bid. So I think that flat rate would be better and very helpful for all, As we all know that It's not something that we can get 1 project even after 7 bids.


I am sure there are exceptions, but I don't know any successful freelancer who makes 11 bids in a single month.

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Renee S Member Since: Jul 28, 2019
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"I am sure there are exceptions, but I don't know any successful freelancer who makes 11 bids in a single month."

 

Being new to this, it is possible to make 11 or more to land one small project. I agree, once I have more reviews and credentials it should be less, but as a newbie it is tough to get noticed.

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Miriam H Member Since: May 16, 2017
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Tiffany S wrote:


I am sure there are exceptions, but I don't know any successful freelancer who makes 11 bids in a single month.


I consider myself  successful and other than one quick job around the 4th of July, it's been tumbelweeds this month. I was invited for multiple jobs, many I accepted, and zero that I was hired for, only one with any engagement.

 

I've applied for a few jobs, again being very selective, only one interviewed and hired me - he required less than 2 hours of work.

 

Perhaps it's the nature of my work, which is primarily business writing, many of my jobs are completed quickly or are awaiting client input, so I am continually checking job leads so I am busy. 

 

This is a long winded way of saying, for some freelancers it really does require a lot of applications to work enough to make a living. 

 

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Thomas B Member Since: Jul 17, 2018
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@Chistine A  --  I think that comes across as a flippant response. It makes an assumption that's not supported by what myself and others have observed.  Each and every proposal I've sought to submit has required 6 Tokens, never less. It's also not reasonable to assume that for many/most projects, with the competition for those projects, that it shouldn't require submitting more than 11 proposals, less if you didn't pay for the so called "Premium Membership" to be "successful" here. So frustrating.

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Phyllis G Member Since: Sep 8, 2016
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Thomas B wrote:

@Chistine A  --  I think that comes across as a flippant response. It makes an assumption that's not supported by what myself and others have observed.  Each and every proposal I've sought to submit has required 6 Tokens, never less. It's also not reasonable to assume that for many/most projects, with the competition for those projects, that it shouldn't require submitting more than 11 proposals, less if you didn't pay for the so called "Premium Membership" to be "successful" here. So frustrating.


If you use the quote function when replying to a specific comment, the conversation is a lot easier to follow.

 

If "each and every proposal" you've wanted to submit cost six tokens, then just budget for six tokens per proposal. Factor it into your business plan. If it doesn't fit, then maybe UW is not worth your while. 

 

I've been on UW for almost exactly three years. During that time, I've submitted 408 proposals. I've never purchased a connect (yet) but even if I had spent six tokens per proposal, purchased at 15 cents each, it would represent an investment of $367 against earnings of more than $70k (on which I've paid UW fees at an avg rate of 9%). I consider that a great ROI, especially since the cost of connects and the UW fees are deductible business expenses.

 

Some of us get flippant around this topic because the constant bellyaching seems to call for it. Everybody needs to put on their big girl/big boy pants and act like business people.

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