May 19, 2023 08:46:34 PM Edited May 19, 2023 08:48:02 PM by Oluwatosin O
Have you noticed this in recent job posts: "Note: Some of the content in Note: Some of the content in this job post may have been auto-generated using advanced AI.
Upwork's new update lets clients create job descriptions using AI.
Why this is good for Upwork:
More jobs to offer; clients can submit projects faster without writing out the details.
Why I think this is not so good for the freelancer:
Vague job descriptions. It gives the impression that this is a potential client who doesn't really know what they want. I'd personally not apply for a job that says .... job post may have been auto-generated using advanced AI.
Let me know your thoughts on this.
May 19, 2023 11:59:05 PM by Jeanne H
When clients are encouraged to use it to by Upwork, they will use it.
May 19, 2023 09:03:46 PM Edited May 21, 2023 12:45:16 AM by Mykola A
It is easy for client. But job post cannot fit real job at all. AI generate some random requirements not related to job requirements.
I saw some such posts already, all the trash. I will ignore such jobs without reading, it is useless.
Note "generated by AI" is great, do not remove it in future.
May 19, 2023 09:59:58 PM by Mark Anthony A
It's really hard to tell which is which... but yeah, I agree wih you that these clients must have not known what do hey really want.
May 19, 2023 11:57:48 PM Edited May 21, 2023 08:02:08 PM by Jeanne H
Part of my concern about the program is that for native English speakers, it is easy to spot, but for those with a different native language, it can be much more difficult. I can spot ChatGPT/other programs immediately. However, I know people whose native tongue is not English, who struggle to identify it.
May 20, 2023 01:26:09 AM by Miles H
100% on this. The uniformity of certain terms and absolute lack of any vernacular are dead giveaways for AI generated posts.
May 20, 2023 11:42:24 AM by Patrice M
Hello Jeanne. H
i my name is Patrice P I am new to Upwork I am frrom congo Brazzaville. I am atranslator, traslating articles from English to french. I wish to kow more about you.
Thank you so much.
May 20, 2023 05:51:54 PM by Jeanne H
Hi Patrice, I'm just another freelancer, who posts in the forum.
May 19, 2023 10:05:51 PM by Alper D
In my opinion, a clients goal is to find great talent. It is not writing random posts. So if it's not good for the freelancer, then the freelancer won't apply. Client will lose the opportunity to attract great talent
May 20, 2023 01:18:33 AM by Sergei T
You bring up some valid points regarding AI-generated job descriptions. Like many things, there are pros and cons to this approach:
Pros:
Efficiency: AI can certainly help clients save time in creating job descriptions, thus increasing the number of available projects.
Guidance: For clients who are not familiar with writing job descriptions, AI tools can provide a structure and ensure they include key elements.
Standardization: AI can create uniformity in job postings, making them easier to browse and understand.
Cons:
Vagueness: As you've mentioned, AI-generated descriptions can often lack the detail and specificity that freelancers need to understand the job fully. This could result in miscommunication and mismatched expectations.
Personal Touch: Job descriptions are often a freelancer's first impression of a client. AI-generated descriptions may lack the personal touch that shows the client's character and work style.
Understanding of the Project: If a client uses AI to generate a job description, it might signal that they are unsure about what they want. This could potentially lead to difficulties in the work process.
So, while AI-generated job descriptions can be a useful tool for streamlining the process, it's crucial that they're used correctly. Clients should still thoroughly review and customize these descriptions to ensure they accurately reflect the job requirements and their expectations. On the freelancer's end, it would be advisable to ask clarifying questions before accepting a job if the description seems vague or generic.
I believe the best approach might be a combination of AI and human touch - let AI create the basic structure, and then clients should personalize it according to their specific needs.
May 20, 2023 09:54:56 AM by Maria T
Hey, did you create the post with AI? Sincere curiosity.
I think the phrase that is used for contracts advising the use of AI should be used here as well.
I'm sick of having to guess who's writing for themselves and who's just a machine.
Although I must admit that I am improving little by little 🙂
May 21, 2023 07:55:12 PM by Maria T
Jeanne H wrote:ChatGPT strikes again.
So I'm learning to recognize them? ✌️
May 21, 2023 07:23:46 AM by ThankGod K
What if the job description was well prompted so that the AI can give a clearer description of what the client want to achieve?
Jun 1, 2023 07:17:50 PM by Jeanne H
That would require a real program. ChatGPT is over ten years old, and is an updated chatbot. I have read documents written by AI, from supposed experts. It still reads odd, stilted, and gets so much wrong. There are several lawsuits working their way through courts where people in journalism, etc. that produced nice documents - except that the program confused the good guys and the bad guys. A few lives turned upside down and one nearly destroyed. Chatbots are not "AI." They can't think, create, or do anything on their own. They write by regurgitating stolen content from the web and from books and who knows where, because the creators won't tell us what sources they used. It plagiarizes, steals, from humans. Even the helpful Upwork chatbot is giving you phrases written by a human.
The current programs are crap, and are never going to make anything clearer. In fact, that is one of the identifiers of the bots. They have a tendency, even when expertly guided, to blather on and never really address the issue.
May 21, 2023 01:11:16 PM by Miles H
So far it doesn't. The majority of AI descriptions read like badly written SEO articles on crappy websites that tell you nothing.
AI might be good, but it still reads like a machine - at least at this point.
Jun 1, 2023 02:36:07 PM by Brice R
I lost lots of connects due to the job description being "well-written". Fortunatelly, I have some to spare.
I do think it helps Upwork to 'buyback' these 'Connects'.
Unforttunately, in the long run, AI generated job descriptions are not helping anyone since they tend to attract lots of bidders.
So, my new (filtering) rules are:
* Job offers less than 10 usually filtered by :
- country (i.e. South Africa Only),
- language (i.e. Xhosa speaker only)
* Client having more than one paid project
* projet willing to pay according to the generated AI job description (i.e. more than $10/hr or $50 per projects)
What I would like to see is:
* Upwork ceasing the opportunity to base price on the job description using AI tool
(i.e generated AI description matching more than 10 lines mimimum bid value $100/hr )
In education that means plagiarism (not original content), which decreases the grade by x pourcentage point
* Adding AI filtering in the `Filter By ` left panel
- Resume Phishing job Descriptions
- Video Phishing job Descriptions
- language based filtering (i.e. Xhosa speaker only this is only allowed to the client)
Jun 3, 2023 10:44:25 PM by Isaiah A
This is definitely not a hit, it is a big MISS. Upwork is crazy to think this is good for business. If a job poster can't sit down and write a few sentences, then they don't really need the job done.
It's not such a big deal to deal with poorly written job posts. I usually just ask them to clarify, and they do. This does not solve A SINGLE THING. It just reminds us all that this chatgpt crap is just the beginning of the end for all of us. Better go learn some handy work, folks...😑.
Honestly, no one wants to sit there and read an essay-like job post, just like job posters don't want to read essays from 20-50 freelancers on every post. You're missing the boat and it's infuriating. Why fix it if it isn't broken? Oh yeaaa I know the answer to that...GREED.
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