re: "Has anyone ever filed a police report?"
There are very few police departments anywhere in the world who want to police what happens on international freelancer work platforms such as Upwork.
Most police departments would tell you straight up that they don't deal with this sort of thing and refer you elsewhere. Or if the did take down your report, they will do nothing with it other than to pass it around their department so they can get a good laugh.
After carefully reading your post, I can affirm that there is nothing there that should be reported to the police. Nothing that can be reported to police. And nothing that can or should be reported to Upwork.
As a freelancer, you made many mistakes. You already realize that. The things you described are either mistakes that you made, or things that were your responsibility to handle directly.
Up Work has a location in San Fran. The client is in Maryland. I'm in both Cali and PA. I hardly find this an international issue whatsoever. You can't do business in the United States without recognizing certain laws. If this was an international matter I wouldn't have even moved forward with this comment.
Secondly, I didn't make many mistakes.... the only mistake I made was feeling sorry for this guy and agreeing to help him out.
Lastly, your sarcasm of the police having a good laugh isn't funny or professional whatsoever. If you don't have any advice, keep that **Edited for Community Guidelines** to yourself. Otherwise you're just as bad as he is. Being kind is priceless.
re: "Upwork has a location in San Fran. The client is in Maryland. I'm in both Cali and PA. I hardly find this an international issue whatsoever."
None of that matters. What happens on Upwork stays on Upwork.
Upwork matters are not police matters.
re: "You can't do business in the United States without recognizing certain laws."
It is not your responsibility to recognize laws on behalf of Upwork, or tell Upwork how to be in compliance with laws.
- learn how to use Upwork effectively
- make recommendations to Upwork about things you think they can change
As an Upwork user, I do those things. I don't tell Upwork that they need to do something differently or that they are doing something wrong based on my understanding of some law somewhere.
re: "Lastly, your sarcasm of the police having a good laugh isn't funny or professional whatsoever. If you don't have any advice, keep that **Edited for Community Guidelines** to yourself. Otherwise you're just as bad as he is. Being kind is priceless."
This was not sarcasm. You asked a question. I provided you with helpful, accurate information.
I do have advice, and shared it with you. None of what I said is **Edited for Community Guidelines** . You are correct: Being kind is priceless. I was being kind to you by answering your questions and providing you with information that can help you succeed as an Upwork user.
I think you're focused on the wrong thing Christine. The issue here is the abuse, derogatory, degrading comments. Both in DM and email.
And I didn't know he was the "worst of the worst" beforehand. I just had a bad vibe. All I knew is he was cheap. I gave him an hour of my time for free to train him. I went above and beyond and then some. I did my two hours one week and then he wanted more work. So I did another 2 hours. I put my additional two hours in.
I don't care that he won a dispute. The argument is how do we feel safe and protected! If a client can email you, call you and DM you filthy derogatory comments?
Up Work took none of that into consideration. Whatsoever.
Being an adult is one thing, being a **Edited for Community Guidelines** is another. I don't think that belongs on any online community. Especially one where we work.
You are making a mistake if you think that Upwork can protect you from clients being rude, crude, foul-mouthed, etc.
You CAN report Upwork users for such. Maybe something will come of it. Maybe nothing will. But Upwork can not "protect" its users from such ever happening.
The person who can do something about that is YOU. If another user uses a word that you don't like or says things that you don't like, then YOU have the ability to block that user in all communication tools that he is able to use to contact you.
Moreover, YOU can decide for yourself what is acceptable and what isn't. You are not beholden to anybody else's opinions on that matter.
You are mistaken if you think that Upwork employees will take that into consideration when making a decision about a client's dispute of a freelancer's manually logged time. They will not. The criteria they use are very simple. If a client disputes manually logged time, during the narrow five-day dispute window, Upwork will remove that time
You love that word "mistake". Let's slow the use of that word. It's a discussion, not a decision.
An online community will not grow by blocking people. Sorry, but I disagree with that. That's why we're seeing a huge movement in country to change the way things take place online.
Simply blocking a user does nothing. Especially when they have your email.
With regards to manual time; I will say this, it is and should be protected in some way. I personally cannot have the camera snapping desktop shots as I work government gigs and have other stuff going on all at the same time. That in itself is a stupid way of logging hours. I get it. We have to see if the person is doing their work. But it's dumb.
Again, I don't give two sheets about this dispute. I care that I can work and know I work in a safe environment. And if Up Work won't do anything about that then I'll take it to the legislature to make it happen.