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Am I on the right track?

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Benjamin P Member Since: Feb 26, 2019
11 of 17

Hi Melanie,

 

Completely understand why you would have those thoughts.  While I don't have an extensive amount of experience with getting people to rank in search engines, I do have some experience.

 

Due to the wording in the contract, I'm not allowed to take credit for the work I've done in the past.  I'm trying to see if there's any way to fix that since the work was done for my father and his business partner's company.  A learning experience at the very least.

 

 When I wrote my first profile, I didn't take the proper measure to ensure that it was of proper quality and, to be honest, I wrote it around 2 a.m. after having a very long day.  I appreciate you looking out for me and please know that I wouldn't be overextending myself, with areas that I wasn't competent in, just to get job offers.

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Maria T Member Since: Nov 12, 2015
12 of 17

Benjamin,

You know? I'm not here to give you any advice, just to wish you luck and say it's a pleasure when someone comes to the forum asking for advice and appreciates what others say to you.
It's so weird!
I wish you the best of luck!

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Benjamin P Member Since: Feb 26, 2019
13 of 17

Maria,

 

Thank you for your insight.  From my brief experience on here, it seems that there are a lot of people that genuinely care and take the time to offer their advice.  Not everyone takes advice and constructive criticism the way it's intended.  I look at all of this as a big learning experience and I find the feedback on here to be very valuable.

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Nichola L Member Since: Mar 13, 2015
14 of 17

Benjamin,

 

Well done. This is much, much better. When you send a proposal remember that a client will only see the first three lines of it (unless they want to see more), so you need to persuade them in those lines that you are the writer they wish to hire. So don't waste space with Dear client or Dear X,Y,Z etc. or saying how well you write.  You should go straight into what you can do for the client's particular project and particular subject. If the project is not clear, then say so and ask the client to specify. 

 

As you do not yet have a portfolio, you could suggest to the client that you will do a short ,paid test for them to assess your skills. However, if a client accepts this, make sure it is a contract like any other. Don't do free work. 

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Benjamin P Member Since: Feb 26, 2019
15 of 17

Nichola,

 

Thanks for the feedback.  I really liked the suggestion about telling the client I would take a short, paid test for them.  Since I'm about to relax for the rest of the day, I'll wait until tomorrow and then I was planning on taking several tests on Upwork that match with the skills in my profile.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like the proposals on here are different from other proposals/cover letters that I'd submit with jobs outside of Upwork.  From what I gather in part of your response, I shouldn't even bother formally addressing the potential client but instead, dive right into what it is that I can do for them?

 

I appreciate you advising me not to do free work.  With a lot of the research I've done, a common theme is to never do anything for free.  Another thing I've learned is to know you're worth, be willing to negotiate but never stoop so low that it feels like you're doing free work.

 

Thanks again Nichola.  I look forward to crossing paths with you in the future.

 

Ben

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Janean L Member Since: Apr 6, 2016
16 of 17

So, so, so, so, SO much improved!

 

Lively; attention-catching and attention-keeping; original; and client-oriented.

 

(And, as others have said: Well-done on keeping your cool under a certain amount of fire; taking the free advice that was offered, no matter how it was packaged; implementing the advice; and responding with good grace.)

 

Welcome and GOOD LUCK!

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Benjamin P Member Since: Feb 26, 2019
17 of 17

Janean,

 

Thanks for taking the time reading both of my profiles and thank you for the kind words.  I really don't care how advice or criticism is packaged, as long as it's delivered with the proper intent.

 

It's not always easy but being mindful to have an objective view has served me well. Other people, that maintain the subjective approach, are the type that seems to be easily offended and completely miss out on the point. In a way, it reminds me of a saying, "be careful what you ask for because you just might get it."

 

Your experience and input are very valuable. I hope to have our paths cross in the future Smiley Happy


Take care,

 

Ben

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