Pandora, I had followed the discussions on the subject here and shared your opinion - so I asked if there was any intention to get rid of this and got the answer the clients would see all bids - hope someone here can confirm.
The flow of information is really ****, if you have to pick up bits and pieces in forums.
Who would want to contradict you, Stephen ....
When I got that answer I thought the least I could do would be to tell about it here - copy/past might be edited.
Hi Pandor and others,
Thanks for the update.
Thanks and best,
@Garnor M wrote:
All proposals will be on one page, though by default we will only display up to 10 proposals. A client will have the option to click "More" to see all proposals submitted, again on the same screen and not separated into a different tab.
Awesome. So your marketplace shows a clear decline in posted jobs, at least a dozen clients took time to come to the forum to report just how utterly irrelevant the recommended by Upwork freelancers were to their job post, and your search remains broken, yet no "senior manager" is able to connect the dots? I am floored.
They've had the same thing over at Elance for quite some time. Not sure if they ever got rid of it... it was announced, everyone was up in arms and then it all seemed to die down and evberyone forgot about it for a while. Maybe they got rid of it, I'm not sure.
The word on the street was that they were hidden by humanoids, rather than some kind of robot algorithm, and it was mainly to hide spam proposals that had little to do with the job in question. My view of it was that if my proposal was bad enough to be hidden, then it's unlikley I would have got the job anyway.
That might have been true if the decisions were being made by human/oids. But on oDesk/Upwork they were made by robots; and there were endless acoounts of the cream of applications being hidden, and a lot of utter dross being stuck on the top of the pile. So you couldn't trust your (logical enough) assertion. That's why it stings so much on here.
That ghost is still there. I noted it during last two months. I was pretty sure, i would win (or been interviewed) when i applied for some jobs. But nothig was happenned. They were just declined. And also, in April-May i received lots of invitations, but during last two months it was below 5. It's pretty sure Upwork is hidding my applications.
So guys, What can we do for this?
I'm a Top Rated freelancer working here more than 4 years. How many time and how much of payments i have paid as 10% to upworks???I cannot understand why they are treating like this to experienced contractors...
I'm pretty new to upwork, coming over form eLance.
I just happened to discover that all of the responses I received to my proposal so far are all hidden. And in reviewing them at least one of them appears very qualified. Why don't I get to choose which responses I want to review automatically? I'm happy to filter out and hide the spam, spend time making that easy to do.
I'm also amazed at how the recommended freelancers mostly don't have the right qualifications. Seems like there are some real problems with the algorithms for both systems, maybe we clients should get a little more functionality for making our own decisions.