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sdrum
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Buying Connects for Boosting too expensive and unnecessary?

Since the start of the boosting your bid system I find myself spending more money buying connects. Originally the connects were much lower, i.e. 2, 4, etc. Now, many already start at 16. I already buy connects monthly but now I am having to buy throughout the month. Although Upwork reduced their fee to 10% instead of 20%, boosting bids may end up taking the other 10%. 

Also, I often used to get replies from clients shortly after bidding on a project. Does it mean now that all the freelancers' bids on a project wait on Upwork server until there is a certain number of them before the client receives them so that the boosting can be applied?

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mcputnam
Community Member

I've worked hard to become top-rated with 100% positive feedback and have been on the platform for years. And I gotta say, I'm at a loss to figure out how the system works now. I used to just get my proposal in quickly and I'd hear back or not -- done.

 

Now, if I get it in quickly, it's outbid. So then I figured, okay wait. I waited four hours the other day to submit my proposal, bid enough to be #1, but the next day I was outbid. Do I have to hold on to my proposals for a day or two before I submit & bid? This is crazy!

 

Even when I'm applying for jobs in my specialization, it doesn't matter, somebody with more connects and more time on their hands can outbid me.

 

I'm starting to look for better platforms that value freelancers.

d9fc6d8d
Community Member

Or you can simply not boost your proposals. Boosting makes zero sense and brings no benefits for both us and the clients, so just don't take part in it.

sdrum
Community Member

I believe the previous system was fairer because it gave everyone equal chances, just like in an auction whoever offers the best bid wins, yet everyone participating in it has the same opportunity. Under the present system, whoever pays more to the auctioneer has a better chance.

d9fc6d8d
Community Member

Not really. People who boost their proposal but can't write a decent one have less of a chance than a person who doesn't boost but is able to write a good proposal. The boosting system just frustrates clients because it won't show them the best matches for their job.


Ze Eduardo P wrote:

I  just deleted my whole post...d'oh.

 

Anyway...from the client's end of things (I do both), I don't hire the person who rushed to the front of the line or who paid more. I hire the person who can do the best job at a rate I'm comfortable with. Some clients may feel differently, but I think most of us want a great freelancer...not someone who is willing to pay a lot of money to get a job. And yes, doing so puts you at or near the front of the line, but again, as a client, I glaze right over the ones that immediately show they're not the right fit based on what can be seen without even opening the proposal.

 

I don't say that to be cold. Clients are busy just like freelancers are busy, and we might get 20, 50, 100 proposals on one job. I get that people just want to work and have a great reputation. I want that, too.

 

From the freelancer's end of things, Idon't think I would throw dollars at a job in an effort to win it, partly because of what I said above about who wins jobs, and partly because it seems ridiculous...like a knock-down drag-out spending race.

 

I don't love the connects system, I'll be honest about that. I think people believe they're going to get the jobs they want by boosting, and while it sometimes happens, it sometimes doesn't...and if you don't have the skills, you just don't. There will ALWAYS be a risk of someone better than you in some way (in the client's eyes) winnig a gig even if you think you were born to do it.

 

That is just my opinion and I'm not trying to insult Upwork. They have allowed me to round out my income nicely. Not just bisshin' over here. ๐Ÿ™‚

partly because of what I said above about who wins jobs, and partly because it seems ridiculous...like a knock-down drag-out spending race.

 

How do you see this as different from investing in SEO to claim one of the most visible slots, or bidding higher on PPC advertising to make sure your ad gets seen?


Tiffany S wrote:

partly because of what I said above about who wins jobs, and partly because it seems ridiculous...like a knock-down drag-out spending race.

 

How do you see this as different from investing in SEO to claim one of the most visible slots, or bidding higher on PPC advertising to make sure your ad gets seen?


I don't. Anyone can put as much money as they'd like into SEO. But if they can't show proof that they're the best for the job, they won't get hired.

 

So really, it's exactly the same.

 

I'm not saying people shouldn't compete for the first viewing or a top spot. I'm explaining why I personally don't see the value in it. Others may, and that's fine.

It seems to me that in the current circumstances, where the vast majority of proposals are never opened, it makes a lot of sense for a freelancer who knows they have a great chance of being hired if the client sees their proposal to make sure it's seen. My own experience has been that boosted proposals are about twice as likely to be opened as organic. But, my sample size is very small.


Tiffany S wrote:

It seems to me that in the current circumstances, where the vast majority of proposals are never opened, it makes a lot of sense for a freelancer who knows they have a great chance of being hired if the client sees their proposal to make sure it's seen. My own experience has been that boosted proposals are about twice as likely to be opened as organic. But, my sample size is very small.


That's good to hear.

When you login to see who has submitted a proposal for your project, do you automatically look at the boosted proposals first or do you not even bother? Just curious, 

The old system didn't, either.

sourceprouk
Community Member

Should I spend 150 connects to boost my bid on this job?

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