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Changes to Connects

shahali009
Active Member
Ali S Member Since: Oct 2, 2019
11 of 821

Reading through the points made by fellow members about the 'Changes made to Connects', as per my personal experience it was quite difficult to work with paid connects with a medium-range starting from $50, seriously!!

Even after that, I did analysis and realized that Upwork PLUS would do better but, guess what?

If you could take a look over the attached screenshot, you will see 51 proposals and 10 active candidacies but, none of them confirmed which I totally am unable to understand that why is that so?

(Is it supposed to mean that these 10 jobs are still Open? If yes, this means those clients are not serious and I have wasted my bids on these 10 proposals, Isn't there any solution to address this problem a lot of Freelancers have been facing?)

 

And for the Upwork PLUS perks: yes, I got referred once by an Upwork Talent specialist to apply for a job but I still am not sure about the benefits of being a UPWORK Plus member..!

 

I would be thankful if someone could better guide me with this new revolution on Upwork.

Thanks in advance.

 

rthdanalytics
Active Member
Robert T Member Since: Feb 9, 2018
12 of 821

Hi,

I am just going to pile on a bit.  Whatever algorithm Upwork is using to price connects needs some major revisions.  It is completely broken and costing freelancers connects unneccessarily.  The fundamental flaw is you are relying on whomever posts the job to set your connect targets.  It seems they either misunderstand the ranges, don't get good guidance on them, or don't care and pick timeframes that are irrelevant.   Many of the jobs I see in the analytics categories are short jobs that can be done in 1-8 hours of actual work time, but are still priced out at 6 connects for jobs that would pay out far less than $500. 

The job attached cost six connects and has 20-50 applicants so far.  It is not a hard job.  I think 15 minutes is probably a generous timeframe to complete.  To be fair, for the poster, this is probably a hard job for them and that is why they are asking for expert help.  They figured less than thirty hours and less than a month.  Those are both true statements.  Since the average freelancer offered $35/hour to do it, that is saying something about the simplicity of the task.

This posting probably took 150 connects out of the system.  I didn't bother to apply since I didn't want to waste $1 to do so.  And I have NEVER seen a job that was only 1 connect or 3 connects for sub $100 jobs.  Even jobs that are $5 fixed fee are still listed at 2 connects.  Forget the ranges, just choose a number from 1-4 with better scaling.  Four connects for a $50 job is way too high.  It is disingeneous to talk about connects ranges that don't play out in reality.

 

my .02

tlsanders
Community Guru
Tiffany S Member Since: Jan 15, 2016
13 of 821

Robert T wrote:

Forget the ranges, just choose a number from 1-4 with better scaling. 


I agree with this, except that I don't care what the number is. I would be fine with 6 connects for every job. Or, doing away with connects and just making it $1/job to bid. But, there's no rhyme or reason to the currently assigned prices, and that's just causing a lot of stress and drama all around.

fmina69
Ace Contributor
Mina F Member Since: Jan 18, 2019
14 of 821

I've wanted to say this for a long time now, but Upwork is really missing a lot. Their strategy to lift off the weight a bit from the freelancers' scale might do, but at least within my scope of work which I'd limit my comment about, they're exchanging whatever they are getting with quality and professionalism. When I first arrived here, I searched for freelancers who provide the same service as me, and I've found experienced and marked as top rated freelancers (translators actually) with serious signs that they're far from being considered even "professionally trustworthy", and those are what Upwork's clients are working with and they might not be even aware of it. With the current Upwork's conditions, at least in the case of my specific field of work, they're keeping the quality of freelance work, which is the very same thing they claim to be trying to enhance, very low.

dmoreno28uw
Ace Contributor
David M Member Since: Aug 16, 2016
15 of 821

I think this is a good thing. It will stop freelancers from *certain* countries from spamming apps and I'm already paying for upwork premium so I see the extra 5 bucks as the cost of doing business. No big deal IMO.

katrinabeaver
Community Guru
Katrina B Member Since: Jan 9, 2011
16 of 821
Really isn't a big deal, it's tax deductible. It is Upwork's decision to do
what Upwork wants. If it doesn't fit my business model, I will move on. But
running a business isn't free and prices go up and fees go up and
subscriptions go up across all industries. When they do people are free to
choose whether to stay or find another avenue. I've been here ten years and
through many changes. When something changes the threads blow up with happy
and unhappy opinions about the change. The threads die down and most who
claim they are leaving for good actually do not. I see quite a few posting
the same things today they posted during the Elance merger, the same thing
as they were posting through the fee increase and it will be the same way
with the connects. People just want to vent, but end the end a lot of them
still stay, why, because apparently Upwork does provide some value or they
wouldn't be here.
"Fairness is giving all people the treatment they earn and deserve. It doesn't mean treating everyone alike-Coach John Wooden"
dannyboycoritao
Active Member
Danny C Member Since: Oct 20, 2019
17 of 821

For me, it's too much seems this flatform is getting greedy.. and lich like sucking more of everyone's earnings. I hope they don't ban someone if they don't agree with the site changes maybe they give time to accept.

johnjlopez
Active Member
John L Member Since: Apr 3, 2019
18 of 821

an extra $5 and every job will cost more credits - up to 90cents just to apply for 1 job- just for the potential of getting that job.  This means if you only apply to big jobs then you can only apply for 11 jobs before that $15 runs out and you are then expected to buy more credits to continue.... Its a cash grab and fleecing on every point of the work process from applying to the fleecing during the actual job. 

yurynmuz
Community Leader
Yury M Member Since: Jun 16, 2017
19 of 821

ha, ha

upwork is more greedy now!

I can't understand why will be $0.15 - should be $1.5 - $15 - everybody will thank the system for the great care about them Smiley Happy

 

I didn't use my free connects because they were free Smiley Happy

richard_wein
Community Guru
Richard W Member Since: Jun 22, 2017
20 of 821

I share the concern that others have expressed about the number of connects for a proposal being based on inaccurate info supplied by the client. And the likelihood that this info will become even more inaccurate due to some clients gaming the system.

 

Why not just have a simple fixed price per proposal? This would also discourage freelancers from applying to $5 jobs, which are surely not good business for Upwork.

 

Another thought. Now that freelancers will be paying for proposals, I think there's a stronger case for refunding connects spent on fake jobs. But this could be balanced by increasing the price of connects. So how about a simple fixed price of $1 ( or maybe $2) per proposal, refunded if no one is hired?

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