Aug 28, 2020 12:34:05 AM by Jason Y
Hi everyone,
I could definitely use your advice and wisdom here. I recently worked with a company in the esports industry for two weeks. During this time, I created a presentation slide rough draft for my new boss, which the client we worked with loved. Yet, my boss hate it for various reasons.
Soon after, my boss became very distant. While I tried to work on this presentation rough draft and talk to my boss for feeback, I guess my boss thought rough draft = perfect draft. A few days later, he explodes on me quite unprofessionally (I honestly don't know why) and abruptly cancels my contract two weeks in.
The kicker is I never got paid during these two weeks, amounting to around $250 USD. But since my boss already closed the job, I can't dispute it. He continues to stay silent since my last email when I asked for my final payment.
I have all the receipts and evidence and will release them if asked, no problem. Judging by my former boss' actions, I don't think he's willing to pay for my past work. Essentially, I worked for free for two weeks and feel both cheated and lied to for honest work.
The question is "how can I get my payment from this client that already closed the job?" Is there a way to contact an Upwork PR person directly?
Thanks!
Aug 28, 2020 12:54:35 AM by Goran V
Hi Jason,
I`m sorry to hear about the bad experience you had.
Just to confirm, was this an hourly contract? If yes, when you`re hired on hourly contracts you will need to track your time with our Desktop app. This way, your clients are billed every Monday for the time tracked in the previous week.
Since the contract was closed the client will be still able to send you a bonus payment. Thank you.
Aug 28, 2020 03:27:02 AM by Jason Y
Aug 28, 2020 04:04:37 AM Edited Aug 28, 2020 04:04:55 AM by Petra R
Jason Y wrote:
In any case, itโs a learning experience for sure. Thanks again for your comment.
Well, the bad news is that you won't get paid and, worse still, the "nothing paid contract" (and whatever private feedback was left on it) will hit your metrics hard (chance of a Rising Talent badge gone, and your future JSS taking a hard hit)
Aug 28, 2020 05:24:02 AM by Jason Y
Aug 28, 2020 12:54:50 AM by Petra R
Jason Y wrote:The kicker is I never got paid during these two weeks, amounting to around $250 USD. But since my boss already closed the job, I can't dispute it. He continues to stay silent since my last email when I asked for my final payment.
Huh? How? Was it hourly or fixed rate? If hourly, you get paid automatically for all hours tracked. If fixed rate, there must have been a funded milestone? Were the $ 250 in a funded milestone? It looks like you were paid $ 200 already (if that's the same contract) - was there $ 250 funded as a new milestone?
Jason Y wrote:The question is "how can I get my payment from this client that already closed the job?" Is there a way to contact an Upwork PR person directly?
No. Unless there are funds in escrow (assuming a fixed rate contract) there is nothing anyone can do.
Aug 28, 2020 03:24:02 AM by Jason Y
Aug 28, 2020 01:12:49 AM by Christine A
Jason Y wrote:While I tried to work on this presentation rough draft and talk to my boss for feeback, I guess my boss thought rough draft = perfect draft. A few days later, he explodes on me quite unprofessionally (I honestly don't know why) and abruptly cancels my contract two weeks in.
You don't send "rough drafts" of presentations. Submit a few slides with different design concepts - using your best possible ideas - and ask the client if he approves the direction, then carry on with the rest of the slides. Don't submit substandard work, or work that has obvious mistakes, and then tell the client that you'll fix it afterwards; that's not a good way to impress clients or inspire confidence to continue working with you.
Aug 28, 2020 03:09:02 AM by Jason Y
Aug 28, 2020 02:05:09 AM by Martina P
How do you have a client and a boss when this is not employment of any kind? Confusing.
Aug 28, 2020 03:11:02 AM by Jason Y
Aug 28, 2020 05:51:41 AM by Amanda L
Aug 28, 2020 06:20:04 AM by Jason Y
Noted. I think I got used to my first client, which went a lot more smoothly and went very well. It happens though and unfortunate I didn't get paid, but it's a learning experience.
Aug 28, 2020 07:28:31 AM by Jason Y
After reading all the responses, I learned a ton! I'm glad everyone "kept it real" with me and didn't sugarcoat it, but wasn't rude at the same time.
I'm going to continue to do freelance and try to get so many positive reviews that it'll hopefully drown out the bad ones.
I learned to track hours on Upwork and write contracts before accepting new gigs. I'll also do better in my work for future projects and not let a bad client or two get me down (I thought my previous work wasn't that bad, but there's always room for improvement.)
Thanks again everyone!
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