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allenwatson23
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Clients Who Recommend

So, I just gained my TR status last week. I also gained a new client who was very satisfied and left great feedback. He said he will contact me when he has another job. Around the same time, my "Clients who would recommend" dropped from 91% to 86%. Could that be from my open contracts that clients don't close? I just don't want to drop out of TR tomorrow, a week after I got it.

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Yes, what Hiu Chun L said.

 

There are times when instinct or more solid evidence tells me why my JSS or my "clients who would recommend" may have changed. There are other times it's a complete mystery, and despite my many questions and investigations, it remains so. I finally chose peace of mind - now (except for times I go off the rails, usually on a Sunday morning ... ) I just tell myself if I do my best, there's nothing more I can do, and JSS and other scores and calculations are what they are. Noting that if someone had told me that when I was beginning on Upwork, I wouldn't have adopted their attitude ....

 

The canned messages are especially used with questions about our success ratings in this forum, I think, because:

1. The topic is so frustrating that people don't read the REAMS of other Community posts about it.

2. The same attributes that make many freelancers successful (attention to detail, dedication) make our inability to understand and control JSS and other scores maddening

3. Those who have a somewhat official role on this forum (that would not be me) find themselves saying the same thing over and over in answers to these questions

4. Those with a somewhat official role on this forum understand the calculations to a point, but there are also mysteries about them Upwork apparently doesn't let anyone fully understand (except perhaps a mad millenial living on fast food in a dark room somewhere in the bowels of the Upwork building, fantasizing about taking over the world and, for now, settling for making freelancers crazy with the JSS and "would recommend" algorithms)

 

Some of what I told you above may be wrong - if so, someone will weigh in and correct it. The canned replies irritate me at times too - though they are often kinder than the ones written from scratch, and they are actually written by people with more knowledge than I have. However - since you asked for input from another freelancer ...

 

Very best wishes to you on your work on Upwork. For me, there was a learning curve to how it all worked, and I have figured more things out in time. What I haven't figured out frustrated me enough that it motivated me to get set up with some private clients, and that hasn't been a bad thing either.

Denise

 

 

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joanbonjoc
Community Member

Hi Allen,

There are many factors that go into your JSS calculation including public and private feedback given when the contract is closed, pattern of contracts without feedback, etc. To learn more details about your Job success score and why it has changed check out this Help Article.

~ Jo-An

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Thank you for the JSS explanation. I understand most of that. What I actually asked about was the Clients Who Would Recommend. I haven't actually had a JSS drop. This is the second week in a row I seem to be getting copy and paste responses from moderators. I understand that makes things easier for you, but I'd just as soon a fellow freelancer answer as long as they actually read my post.

Yes, what Hiu Chun L said.

 

There are times when instinct or more solid evidence tells me why my JSS or my "clients who would recommend" may have changed. There are other times it's a complete mystery, and despite my many questions and investigations, it remains so. I finally chose peace of mind - now (except for times I go off the rails, usually on a Sunday morning ... ) I just tell myself if I do my best, there's nothing more I can do, and JSS and other scores and calculations are what they are. Noting that if someone had told me that when I was beginning on Upwork, I wouldn't have adopted their attitude ....

 

The canned messages are especially used with questions about our success ratings in this forum, I think, because:

1. The topic is so frustrating that people don't read the REAMS of other Community posts about it.

2. The same attributes that make many freelancers successful (attention to detail, dedication) make our inability to understand and control JSS and other scores maddening

3. Those who have a somewhat official role on this forum (that would not be me) find themselves saying the same thing over and over in answers to these questions

4. Those with a somewhat official role on this forum understand the calculations to a point, but there are also mysteries about them Upwork apparently doesn't let anyone fully understand (except perhaps a mad millenial living on fast food in a dark room somewhere in the bowels of the Upwork building, fantasizing about taking over the world and, for now, settling for making freelancers crazy with the JSS and "would recommend" algorithms)

 

Some of what I told you above may be wrong - if so, someone will weigh in and correct it. The canned replies irritate me at times too - though they are often kinder than the ones written from scratch, and they are actually written by people with more knowledge than I have. However - since you asked for input from another freelancer ...

 

Very best wishes to you on your work on Upwork. For me, there was a learning curve to how it all worked, and I have figured more things out in time. What I haven't figured out frustrated me enough that it motivated me to get set up with some private clients, and that hasn't been a bad thing either.

Denise

 

 

Thank you so much for the detailed response! Very much appreciated.

Consider yourself lucky your post didn’t get merged with a JSS thread that’s hundreds of pages long, which greatly diminishes chances of getting a reply that’s not generic. Cat Wink

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iamchunchunchun
Community Member

Allen, I think the rate is updated after you have several new clients. So the rate could still drop even if your latest new client gave you a great feedback.

JSS is updated every two weeks.  Tomorrow or Monday, depending on where you live, is the next update.

tlbp
Community Member

The clients who would recommend score is based on the number selected by the client on a 1 to 10 scale. This number selection is also known as private feedback.  If you client gave you a number of 8 or lower, it might have pulled down your overall average. There is no do-over or changing of this private feedback. However, once a freelancer achieves top-rated status, one of the perks is to be able to remove one of the private feedbacks from their JSS calculation. The perk renews after a specific number of contracts have been completed a specific number of months has passed.

 

Whether the decrease in "would recommends" will affect your JSS is an unknown. 

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