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Curious Invites

I know the obvious solution is just to ignore these people, but I've been noticing a common trend and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

 

I often get invited to bid on jobs by a client (not those Upwork what-you-missed emails), and then when I bid on the job, the clients are thrown off by my proposal price. But they can see my hourly rate on the invite page right? Why would they invite me only to challenge the price that I'm broadcasting on my profile. Why not just invite someone cheaper?

 

I even had one client invite me to a job where the budget was so low, I assumed it was either a joke budget or an "I don't know how much this actually costs so I'll just write a random number" budget. So I just bid agnostic of the posted budget. In this particular case, it was a pretty large bid: he wanted a full website, including development, site design and a new logo.

 

Said client literally laughed me into the rejection pile. As in, he went out of his way to respond to my bid, telling me that he was actually "laughing out loud" and that I'm insane for thinking the project should cost that much and then deleted my proposal. Again, he can see my hourly rate. How long did he think that work was going to take? 

 

Alright, done venting. Just a few weird experiences I wanted to get off my chest. ๐Ÿ™‚

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r_skane
Member

I had a werid one two days ago. I'm new, so I was taken aback. It was an invite I could definitely help with - some WordPress problems. She didn't have a budget listed in her job description and because I thought it was likely simple, I halved my normal per-hour price and even told her I could do it for a fixed price if she was so inclined. She wrote back that my price was simply too high for something that was a ten-minute fix. But that was the problem, I had absolutely no idea if it was a 10-minute fix or not. I kindly gave her some ideas of what it could be and left it at that. I got an email from upwork saying my offer was declined (which is fine) but she left additional feedback stating that she had quoted a certain amount (which I never saw anywhere), that I came at her with a huge amount (it really wasnt), that I insisted on a fixed price (I didn't, I just suggested it) and made it seem like I did something wrong. I was very confused. This was an alert on my phone. On the desktop, I cannot find that feedback from her anywhere.

Happens most days. Most of the time I just decline and indicate the budget is too low. Occasionally, I include a note to the client saying, in a reasonably nice way, that they could avoid wasting their own time (and mine) by reading FLs' profiles and noting their standard rates, before sending out invitations to candidates who are so obviousy not who they're looking for.

 

 

richard_wein
Member

I had a somewhat similar case, except that, instead of laughing at my price, the client accepted it and then left poor feedback, complaining that I was too expensive! I'd rather have been laughed at.

That's a good way of looking at it; I guess I didn't think of that.

 

All I got was a bruised ego. At least my JSS is in tact!

Wait, because she declined my offer and left some negative feedback, it could affect my JSS?

 

Edit: Nevermind - misread who wrote what!

I think there are more and more posts about low prices offered. We should sort of organise to make clients understand they are not just dealing with cheap labor.

 

However, right now I'm using the option that allows me to see what people are bidding, and there are always b-l-e-e-p ready to offer nearly free labour. How can clients take us seriously?

 

I think we should decide together the minimum to ask for each type of job. Or Upwork should propose options such as:

. low rate and chances of low quality

. medium rate and chances of average/reasonable quality

. decent rate and great chances of reasonable/excellent quality.

 

To me, top rated freelancers have proven to be able to deliver average or reasonable quality, but some clients seem unaware of that....

So, Luce, instead of clients choosing between 

$ Entry level / $$ Intermediate / $$$ Expert 

they would choose between 

$ Low quality  / $$ Medium quality  / $$$ Top quality 

Good idea!


@Richard W wrote:

So, Luce, instead of clients choosing between 

$ Entry level / $$ Intermediate / $$$ Expert 

they would choose between 

$ Low quality  / $$ Medium quality  / $$$ Top quality 

Good idea!


 It is a good idea, isn't it? Except that beginners on Upwork might be very good quality but accept low retribution because they are trying to get a first job.

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