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vladimir-dim
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Do you think Upwork should set the minimum price for different products and services?

Hello community! Screenshot attached shows a new norm on the platfrom, I haven't applied for any projects in a while because the value of (potential) work is simply too low. This screenshot shows a common scene - people expecting someone (a graphic design professional?) to do the work for less than $20. I've declined several invitations I received over the past few weeks because the proposed budget was $15-20 for packaging design projects. 

I believe the solution could be setting a minimum price for packaging design to $XXX-$XXXX so the clients willing to pay proper amount of money for a proper amount of knowledge and work would be in a position to choose between freelancers who can deliver a quality product. Also, that would make the platform competitive in offering quality, like some other platforms that have introduced similar pricing structure in the past.

If this trend continues - there's gonna be no quality design on Upwork. 

Maybe I missed something, I'd like to hear your thoughts.  Thanks!

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yofazza
Community Member

I agree, American standards for the minimum price would be convenient ๐Ÿ˜

vladimir-dim
Community Member

Regardless of the country freelancers live in and the state of economy is - working all day for $5 while presenting yourself a master of any skill is not a good solution, neither for the freelancer or the platform, even if the freelancer is willing to "work for free" to beat the competition - eventually the value of work will drop on the platform and that's just bad for everyone, as is the case now. 

No need for sarcasm here. I'm just proposing a solution. 

Of course - someone from the US is gonna come here looking to pay less than what they would pay there, but it shouldn't be less than the daily living cost in countries with -not so great economy- if the project multiple requires days of work.

yofazza
Community Member

Sorry, meant to make a joke instead of sarcasm. ๐Ÿ˜

 

This has been discussed many times and my summary is:

 

Upwork's aim is worldwide. Allowing high-income-country clients meet with low-income-country worker is the idea. $5 a day is a big amount to some. $270+ is the minimum monthly wage in my capital city, this roughly translates to $9 per 24 hours. And I don't think my country is the lowest in terms of low minimum wage.

 

Most people here will tell you around, "set your price based on what you think is right", "lowball clients are not your market", and somewhere around that.

 

Yes there are 'suggestions' around setting up some kind of 'levels' or 'certifications' so a minimum amount can be set for them but this is a big headache to Upwork.

vladimir-dim
Community Member

Thank you, no offense taken. I've been to your country, I have quite a few great friends there, we used to work together too. 

The issue here is the quality of the work the clients can expect if this policy continues. 

Regarding the economy of the worldwide market - I'm fully aware of that as I've been to quite a few, and regardless of the state of the econmy - that still doesn't justify a job offer for a packaging design project of $5. 

I see you're not workiong in the same field as I do but since you felt like you should explain to me that someone from a low income income country can do great work for that amount of money - I need to ask you to show me a project where a designer did an amazing packaging design job for $5, and if he did (which makes things worse) - why didn't the whole thing cost more?

Nothing against you - but seems like you've joined the platform after me and things used to be a bit better here, in terms of client's budgets. 

yofazza
Community Member

 I need to ask you to show me a project where a designer did an amazing packaging design job for $5

I wasn't speaking about quality specifically.

 

There are clients posting many $5 jobs that I consider 'unbelieveable' for some tasks in my niche, where in the history of those clients I only see 5 stars on both parties. I don't know the actual outcome but I'm kind of 100% sure the qualities are not great.

 

This is where the suggestions about 'lowball clients are not your market' comes into account.

 

I also just posted something about these clients who are not 'clueless' about the budget of their projects, but they really meant it. Some of them are in the US. Allowing them to look for cheap workers (for whatever quality) is in Upwork's vision.

 

The lowball clients are here as far as I can remember. My first feedback in Upwork is dated 2009 and I freelance before that. 

 

I remember there were clients posting 'facebook clone' projects for $10 back then. This is an example of 'unbelieveable' I mentioned above. But actually, there were scripts that can be considered as 'facebook clone' that you can quickly install and run a 'facebook clone' (for whatever quality).

vladimir-dim
Community Member

I have a slight feeling I'm talking to an Upwork agent at this point. 

 

My issue is not one, "freak" occurance of a low-paid project, instead - most of the projects that show up severely devalue the work of graphic designers.

 

Why do I keep getting your responses mudding the water?

yofazza
Community Member

Come on, Vladimir, I'm not even a fan of Upwork ๐Ÿ˜

vladimir-dim
Community Member

You seem to be very active for someone who's not a fan.

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