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Fake Job Posts to Consume Freelancer's Connects

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Ron Jonathan R Member Since: Mar 5, 2018
1 of 22

Is this a thing in Upwork? I know the competition is up among freelancers. Are there freelancers who spend time creating accounts as clients then post or create promising jobs with great offer to freelancers. And so freelancers apply and apply, as time passes 30 fake job posts created = 60 connects consumed thus making a freelancer incapable of applying.

 

Is this trick a thing in Upwork? I can say they're connect scammers.

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Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
2 of 22

@Ron Jonathan R wrote:

Fake Job Posts to Consume Freelancer's Connects

Is this a thing in Upwork?

 

Is this trick a thing in Upwork? I can say they're connect scammers.


 I doubt it.

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Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
3 of 22

Ron Jonathan:

 

With the way Upwork functions, and with the numbers of freelancers on the platform, there simply wouldn't be any way to make a scheme like this work. The numbers don't work out. So it would be a waste of time for any duplicitious freelancer to try something like this.

 

One of the big problems such a schemer would face would be that there is no way for a client to fake his hiring history or client stats on Upwork.

 

Whenever freelancers see job postings, we are able to see many different numbers that tell us what kind of client we are dealing with.

 

We can see how many people a client has actually hired, how much money a client has actually spent paying freelancers, average pay, how many invitations and submissions, etc.

 

So if a schemer tried to do what you describe, we would see stats indicating somebody who has had many applications, but hasn't actually hired anybody, and that would be an instant red flag that would warn freelancers away.

 

Also: Upwork officially has said they have algorithms and programs in place designed to identify and flag problematic clients, such as clients who post many jobs or send many invites without actually hiring anybody. So, in theory, any schemer who tried to do what you describe would eventually be caught and removed from the platform. He would need to continually create new fake client accounts.

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Aaron R Member Since: Jul 5, 2018
4 of 22

There have been dozens of fake job postings daily - scam artists who make you think you've been hired. Only to find out they've hacked your computer or have asked for money from your bank or who knows what ...........  Clients are not vetted like freelancers are.  Perhaps verifying funds for all new jobs would be a good idea.  Deposit money into escrow and then you can post your job. imo

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Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
5 of 22

Aaron:

That's all true.

But those things you mention as being problems are not the scheme that the original poster is describing.

 

re: "Clients are not vetted like freelancers are."

Yes, that is very true, and that is one of the reasons I earn a lot of money through Upwork. So I'm not anxious to change something that is working for me.

 

re: "Perhaps verifying funds for all new jobs would be a good idea.  Deposit money into escrow and then you can post your job."

 

This has been discussed in other threads. Successful Upwork freelancers do not want this to happen, because we like the ease with which clients currently can post jobs, find us, and pay us large amounts of money.

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Ron Jonathan R Member Since: Mar 5, 2018
6 of 22

Let's say a freelancer has 60 emails. Then creates 60 Upwork Client accounts. in 1 hour he can come up with 60 job postings. It's very easy.

 

Upwork sees they are 60 job posts from 60 different CLient accounts, so no problem?

 

A hardworking freelancer applies 30 of those jobs, he sees they're 30 different clients. His connects are consumed and have to wait for a month. What if 100 freelancers applied to 30 jobs? 200? 1000? The competition is won in 1 hour.

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Avery O Moderator Member Since: Nov 23, 2015
7 of 22

Hi Ron Jonathan, 


We have a dedicated team and system that goes through freelancer, and client accounts, and job posts to take action on fraudulent accounts and posts. If you suspect that any of the job posts that you are seeing on your feed is fraudulent, you may flag the job post as inappropriate, or report it directly to our Customer Support Team so that it can be reviewed. 


-Avery
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Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
8 of 22

@Aaron R wrote:

There have been dozens of fake job postings daily - scam artists who make you think you've been hired. Only to find out they've hacked your computer or have asked for money from your bank or who knows what ...........  Clients are not vetted like freelancers are.  Perhaps verifying funds for all new jobs would be a good idea.  Deposit money into escrow and then you can post your job. imo


 Terrible idea which has been discussed literally hundreds of times. It would copletely deter new clients (as has been confirmed over and over by real clients with high spending, saying that they would NEVER have posted their first job if that was a requirement)

 

It is almost imossible to be scammed by the stuff you mention unless you don't adhere to the terms of service and / or rules of very basic common sense and / or have lived under a rock the last two decades because all those scams are as old as the hills and twice as silly.

 

YES, there are lots of scam postings unfortunately and they are constantly being taken down. If freelancers used a modicum of common sense and not keep falling for them they would go away.

 

That is also not what the OP is talking about at all.

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Aaron R Member Since: Jul 5, 2018
9 of 22

how do you know for a fact the fake job posting are not from current freelancers? you must have a secret source to vet all of the fake postings? interesting

 

 

I have over a half a dozen posting that state they are current freelancers posting a job - jobs for menu prep, interior design ect...   at least these proposals actaully list the hiring person as a freelancer - other posting it would be impossible.

 

 

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Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
10 of 22

@Aaron R wrote:

how do you know for a fact the fake job posting are not from current freelancers? you must have a secret source to vet all of the fake postings? interesting


**Edited for Community Guidelines**

 

The OP asked if freelancers are posting jobs with the sole purpose of enticing their competition to waste their connects and if that "is a thing here."R ead the original posting slowly and carefully if it was in any way confusing.

 

The scammers may well have freelancer accounts but the second their scam-client accounts are suspended, their freelancer accounts are gone too.

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