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Fraud Client / Unjust System

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Luce N Member Since: Oct 9, 2016
11 of 18

Martina, I guess he's learning this lesson. Don't make it worse!

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Luce N Member Since: Oct 9, 2016
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Petra, thanks for the info on clients not being able to just change the contract. That would be a nightmare!

 

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Will L Member Since: Jul 9, 2015
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Martina,

 

This new freelancer made many mistakes, no doubt. But anyone who thinks it is easy-peazy to use Upwork from Day One has been on Upwork long enough to forget more than a newby can ever know. 

 

You say, "you used the help of your wife (not allowed, you can get suspended for that)." 

 

I am not aware of anything Upwork has publicly stated in the way of whom a freelancer is "allowed" to use to help fulfill an Upwork contract. Where did you get your information from?

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Will L Member Since: Jul 9, 2015
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Never mind. I see Petra set the record straight on allowable helpers.

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Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
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Will L wrote:

 

I am not aware of anything Upwork has publicly stated in the way of whom a freelancer is "allowed" to use to help fulfill an Upwork contract. Where did you get your information from?


They have, but it changed over the years. It used to be that subcontracting was not allowed, full stop. Then it was changed to only being allowed for fixed rate contracts. It's stated in the terms.

 

It would appear that "Peter's" account is gone anyway, but the point of those of us who originally commented went off on a tangent - We are translators. "Peter" or whatever his name is, is not a translator, does not list either translation as a skill nor Hebrew as a language he speaks, and even admits that he merely "understands" it. So he took a job doing something that is outside his skillset, translating from one language he does not master into another he doesn't either.

 

He is an architect. What he is doing is a bit like a translator trying to design a house using a can opener.

Those of us who are translators see the consequences of such things on a daily basis.

 

So yes, the client did behave apallingly badly, but likely got what he paid for. The translation equivalent of a house designed with a can opener.

 

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John K Member Since: Feb 17, 2015
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Petra, this is one of the most egregious examples of a client cheating a freelancer by not fully funding a milestone that I’ve seen, and I’ve seen more than a few. It would be nice if one time Upwork could sanction a client for this kind of skullduggery. For instance, since the client had the gall to flag the freelancer, perhaps Upwork could balance the scales and suspend the client. It’s not as though the client is contributing a lot to Upwork’s bottom line.
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Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
17 of 18

John K wrote:
. For instance, since the client had the gall to flag the freelancer, perhaps Upwork could balance the scales and suspend the client.

For all we know, they have already done so.

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Jennifer M Member Since: May 17, 2015
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The honeypot of the Upwork forums strikes again.

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