Frequent use of chatgpt in writing proposals

[#1]

Nowadays, many freelancers are using ChatGPT to write proposals. ChatGPT follows a similar pattern for proposal writing. Initially, it was productive when few were aware of it, but now writing proposals entirely using ChatGPT is not a good approach. On the client end, the client will see the same pattern repeatedly, which will give a bad impression to our proposal.

I advise my fellow freelancers to write their proposals on their own and ask as many questions as possible to capture the client's attention. 

Cheers!

[#2]

Using AI to write proposals violates Upwork's TOS unless it's disclosed. But, that aside...the vast majority of freelancers were using templates they found online and writing proposals that followed the same format as thousands of other freelancers long before AI.

[#3]

Unless these freelancers, and those who spend 50 connects to booste a single proposal, start to think from the client's perspective, they will not suceed. 

A couple of days ago, I sent a normal bid to a job. I saw, 50,40, 30 connetcs were used to booste proposals. I wrote a specific proposal to that job post, explained what I could do for that particluar job, attached a work sample and sent my bid without boosting.

Within 5 minutes, the client replied. I did one more free sample for him, and got the contract within half an hour. It turned out to be a long term job with good pay. 

This is how you connect with clients and get jobs. Not by being lazy and sending ChatGPT proposals inflated with connects.

[#4]

Exactly my point.You must focus on writing your own quality proposals which AI can't do on its own.You can seek some help but getting yourself totally dependant on AI will ultimately harm you

[#5]

Thank you for this Jyoti.

It's inspiring.

[#6]

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Jyoti S wrote:

Within 5 minutes, the client replied. I did one more free sample for him, and got the contract within half an hour. It turned out to be a long term job with good pay. 

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Giving them a free sample is very risky due to the prevalence of "sample farming". I'm glad that it worked out for you, but I want to caution everybody who reads this from supplying free samples of custom work.

[#7]

I wouldn't call it 'lazy', some of us are just good at working but we're not writters. I'm not a writer nor am I a marketer. Many times I just don't know how I can get a client's attention. Nobody explains it to you, and if you use templates it is 'wrong'

[#8]

There are numerous ways to learn about business and how to connect with customers, for free. That device, you are using to work, has access to information on every aspect of freelancing. You don't have to use a program with serious legal issues. By using the chatbots, you run the risk of having your proposals going to the "other" file, because of similarity.

Unlimited knowledge is available for free.

[#9]

If you use templates, it is very likely unsuccessful. 

[#10]

Umer,

ChatGPT is great for brainstorming for ideas and concepts but would be horrible for a cover letter.

Just got back from Upwork's annual stockholder meeting today and Upwork's CEO stated that in the past 4 months AI job posts are up 39 times. Clients are seeking AI pros but in every instance, at least today, the documents have to be professionally proofed and edited. She stated that clients want to save money with freelancers that know how to use the lastest AI tools to speed the process up. Have a great day!

[#11]

Many clients are asking for ChatGPT written content for a pittance. And I'm coming across clients who have burned their fingers with ChatGPT "experts", and then, come back to real experts to write real content. 

Not only freelancers, clients are also at fault for encouraging them to use ChatGPT. 

[#12]

I saw one post last month that was for a 200 page novel for $40 using ChatGPT. I can only imagine how bad the novel was.

[#13]

Probably about as bad as the ones that are written by humans for a similar price.

[#14]

You would really let an AI trained on a small dataset write your proposals?

You would really not feel the need to be genuine? 
Whatever gets you the job right?

[#15]

Weirdly, a lot of Upwork proposals don't seem to be about getting a job. I'm not sure what other possible goal they might have, but when I advertise for someone to design slides for me and get responses from people whose cover letters say nothing but a cut-and-paste about their experience doing data entry or bookkeeping with no mention of the type of work I'm looking for, it's hard to imagine that they're trying or hoping to get hired.

ETA: This is not limited to Upwork. There is one candidate who has applied to every job I have ever posted on Indeed, each time stating that her experience as a dietary aid in a nursing home makes her the perfect fit for (just one actual example) my posting for an experienced bookkeeper.

[#16]

ChatGPT is winning Upwork jobs for me! 

[#17]

Using chatgpt has become a daily proposal writer for some freelancers and the propelling thing is some of the clients encourage it.

A client will post a job in a second and the next 2-5 seconds 4 proposals are already submitted how?

If you are writing a proposal, at least you would spend 4-6 minutes, aside from the job description that you would read; of course, you should understand the job description first to know how to draft a proposal

Or should I write about the bidding that Upwork encourages? I will submit a proposal in 4 minutes, and a freelancer will submit it in an hour with bidding which makes his proposal to be above my proposal.

[#18]

There's a client saying that he posted a job with this as description:

It turned out that only less than 10% of all proposals are addressing the description in the attachment. 90% have something like, 'I understand you're looking for a person that's not a bot. I have 5 years experience...'

So yes it's crazy.

[#19]

Well for the bidding, it is based on the highest bidder system, so it is a business model for Upwork, as people who can bid higher would be able to secure more projects. The issue that needs to be addressed is for Upwork to limit the rate at which bots sends proposal, it is not a good thing for freelancers.

[#20]

As an Employer, I receive cover letters written by ChatGPT, the letters seem tailor made for my job. They are good enough to make me open the applicants CV. After seeing the projects and skills in the cover letter not listed in CV, and the CV pointing to a completely different skill set, the applicant gets rejected.

I think a better approach would be to write the first draft by hand explaining why you are fit for the job, and then handing it over to an AI to ensure a professional tone.

[#21]

Vijay,

You are 100% correct; that is how ChatGPT is suppose to be used but most people don't know that.

[#22]

Everything I've seen fed into it has come out worse. Then again, everything I've seen fed into it was written by a writer or an attorney. Are you saying it is intended to help people who are poor writers polish their content? 

[#23]

Tiffany,

Place something here that you want improved and I will send you the results back so you can see how it works. It is all about giving these tools the proper prompt, or yes, junk can come out. I just worked with an attorney a month ago showing her how to properly prompt Jasper to update her whole workflow and it was incredible.

[#24]

I guess traditional employers will have to come up with another hoop to jump through in the application process now that people can cheese through making a cover letter.