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How do you charge/track handrawn work ?

luiscarlosq
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Luis Q Member Since: Oct 25, 2015
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Hello fellas, i'm really new to upwork and i haven't done any job for upwork yet, im not really sure how the time trackers works.

 

I've been told that time tracker takes a few screenshots every 10 minutes and counts mouse clicks and keystrokes, thats fine by me, but how do you charge your client when you're not working on the PC ? 

 

As a graphic designer , sketching is part of my workflow but its something i can't really track using the app, how do you manage through this? 

 

Do you 'overcharge' your client on your standard rate to compensate this hours?

 

For example lets say i have an estimation of 10hours to a certain project and i will spend one hour sketching, using the time tracker will show the client i 'only' worked for 9hours because i spent one hour sketching, how would you charge that hour to your client ? Do you increase your standard rate by 10% ?

babzward
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Barbara W Member Since: Sep 10, 2015
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Speak with your client about adding manual hours - and then keep track of how long you're sketching and add them in that way. That's what I would do. It takes a bit more work, but I'm pretty sure it's your easiest option.

 

(I'm a writer, though, so YMMV.)

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colettelewis
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Nichola L Member Since: Mar 13, 2015
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As Barbara suggests, except that you are not protected by Upwork if you set the job up manually. I would suggest you work out how long a job would take you and work on a fixed-rate basis agreeing milestone payments with the client, who then should fund escrow before you start working.

 

I also suggest before you even start looking for jobs that you read the Upwork Terms of Service and all you can about how the system works on the help pages. Not exciting, but necessary!

 

https://www.upwork.com/legal/

https://www.upwork.com/legal/contractor-policies/

https://support.upwork.com/hc/en-us/articles/211068288

https://support.upwork.com/hc/en-us/articles/211068488-How-do-I-manually-add-time-to-my-Work-Diary-

https://support.upwork.com/hc/en-us/articles/211063748-Upwork-Fixed-Price-Protection-for-Freelancers

stencil_media
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Scott E Member Since: Jul 26, 2015
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Have a webcam pointed at your sketch zone, and leave the output from that running on your desktop, so the tracker will take screenshots. I've never done that, as I don't do hourly jobs, and I don't have a webcam on my main PC, but I'm assuming that could work. Maybe?

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petra_r
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Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
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@Scott E wrote:

Have a webcam pointed at your sketch zone, and leave the output from that running on your desktop, so the tracker will take screenshots. I've never done that, as I don't do hourly jobs, and I don't have a webcam on my main PC, but I'm assuming that could work. Maybe?


 Nope.

 

No keystrokes and no mouse-clicks = no tracked time.

 

Best way for that is to discuss this with the client in advance, explaining that you estimate the total time for the job to be about 10 hours, and that 1 (or whatever)of that will likely be drawing and scetching, which the tracker can not capture. Due to that you'd be adding manual time for that time to your work diary, and explain to the client (if needed) that they would need to allow manual time to facilitate this.

 

Manual time is allowed by default, so all the client needs to do while setting up the contract is to NOT disable it.

stencil_media
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Scott E Member Since: Jul 26, 2015
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You could glue tiny pieces of cheese to the buttons of your mouse and keyboard, and then put them in a cage with a real mouse. Should keep it going for an hour or so. 

"Welcome, humans. I'm ready for you!"
- Box, Logan's Run (1976)
cclapper
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Cathleen C Member Since: Aug 17, 2015
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I agree with Nichola...only work on a fixed rate basis. Then your estimate can include all of your time. If milestones are set up, you will get paid faster.

prestonhunter
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Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
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I think that fixed-price OR manual time is completely fine for a situation like this.

 

Petra is right about logging time with the time-tracker, though. This is not an appropriate job to do using time-tracker software.

luiscarlosq
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Luis Q Member Since: Oct 25, 2015
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Okay okay ! Thank you all I will keep your sugestions in mind. I just got my first client and in the end we agreed to make it a fixed price to simplify things 🙂

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