Oct 4, 2018 10:49:25 PM Edited Oct 4, 2018 11:14:44 PM by Goran V
Kindly review my job and chat with client, he has requested for refund but I completed the work. Client name :-**Edited for Community Guidelines** Job :- **Edited for Community Guidelines**
Oct 4, 2018 11:18:19 PM by Goran V
Hi Amit,
I`m sorry to hear about the bad experience you have with your client. This was a fixed price contract correct? If yes, check out this Guide to learn more how you`re protected on fixed price contracts.
Please keep in mind that you have 7 days to respond on your client request, if you do not respond in 7 days the funds will be released to your client. By rejecting the request a dispute will be opened with our team for you and your client. To learn more about dispute, check out this Thread. Thank you.
Oct 5, 2018 07:03:11 PM by Hermann M
You cannot win here as a freelancer. I have been blackmailed by a client to give her a refund because I did the work too quick and refused. My ranking dropped from 93% to 83% because she complained to Upwork and gave me a very bad rating. Upwork does not care when you complain, even if you can provide the evidence through messages, all they do is give you the corporate run-arround. As a freelancer you are open to all sorts of client problems
Oct 5, 2018 08:24:44 PM Edited Oct 5, 2018 08:34:04 PM by Melanie H
@Hermann M wrote:You cannot win here as a freelancer. I have been blackmailed by a client to give her a refund because I did the work too quick and refused. My ranking dropped from 93% to 83% because she complained to Upwork and gave me a very bad rating. Upwork does not care when you complain, even if you can provide the evidence through messages, all they do is give you the corporate run-arround. As a freelancer you are open to all sorts of client problems
This can happen (poor FB as retaliation), but if the project was already closed by the client, the feedback is already there. The client can't just change the feedback and make it worse. Whether or not the OP refunds, the private FB is permanent. Meanwhile, the OP is out the money, too. I wouldn't, unless I truly knew I was in the wrong, did terrible work, etc.
But...what do you mean, she was upset that you did the work too quick and refused? Refused what? Just wondering.
Oct 5, 2018 10:45:49 PM by Hermann M
That is hard to understand I know. I quoted her 15 hours during the first month and she must have thought I would do an hour every 2 days or so. She got really upset when she got the bill and her reasoning was (free of any logic) that I told her 15 hours in one month and notone week.
The work I did was up to standard and I even went beyond and gave her marketing suggestions for which she was gratful. It all changed the moment she got the bill. I can only asume that she was having financial problems and tried to get out of paying that way.
The fact remmains, as a freelancer on Upwork you are unprotected against such malignant clients, even if you have all the evidence within the Upwork messanging system.
Oct 5, 2018 11:09:19 PM Edited Oct 5, 2018 11:11:04 PM by Petra R
@Hermann M wrote:That is hard to understand I know. I quoted her 15 hours during the first month and she must have thought I would do an hour every 2 days or so. She got really upset when she got the bill and her reasoning was (free of any logic) that I told her 15 hours in one month and notone week.
That was the second time in two months that you and the client were not on the same page about the volume / cost of work expected and agreed. Out of 8 contracts that would indicate a severe lack of clear and meaningful communication with your clients in a whopping 25% of your contracts.
Oct 6, 2018 07:38:29 AM by Hermann M
I'm not sure who you are and what you are saying. When I quote 15 hours in the first month it doesn't matter if I do them over 2 days, 1 week or 2 weeks.
Oct 6, 2018 08:17:50 AM by Petra R
@Hermann M wrote:I'm not sure who you are and what you are saying. When I quote 15 hours in the first month it doesn't matter if I do them over 2 days, 1 week or 2 weeks.
Clearly, 25 % of all your clients to date disagree.
Oct 6, 2018 11:54:57 AM by Kathy T
@Hermann M wrote:That is hard to understand I know. I quoted her 15 hours during the first month and she must have thought I would do an hour every 2 days or so. She got really upset when she got the bill and her reasoning was (free of any logic) that I told her 15 hours in one month and notone week.
The work I did was up to standard and I even went beyond and gave her marketing suggestions for which she was gratful. It all changed the moment she got the bill. I can only asume that she was having financial problems and tried to get out of paying that way.
The fact remmains, as a freelancer on Upwork you are unprotected against such malignant clients, even if you have all the evidence within the Upwork messanging system.
Hermann - in CERTAIN situations, I agree with you, especially if a job goes into arbitration and the freelancer is entitled to receive the funds in escrow. The client of course, in retaliation can leave a scathing untrue feedback just because they were not successful. I hope, one day that Upwork would not allow any feedback at all, not for the client or freelancer.
There are scammers on here too who will leave negative feedback if they don't get a refund from freelancers. There are freelancers on here who think their work is exceptional when, in fact, it's mediocre. Those freelancer think they deserve fantastic feedback. And finally there are clients, that no matter what a freelancer may do, it's never enough, thus negative feedback comes into play.
Upwork is what it is. Whether or not feedback is a disadvantage, this is what we have to work with. Top rated freelancers receive a perk to delete both public and private feedback. Other then that, all I can say is try to get more jobs, so the negative feedback ones fall off. Other then that, we freelances make the best of it.
Oct 6, 2018 11:45:20 AM by Kathy T
@Amit K wrote:Kindly review my job and chat with client, he has requested for refund but I completed the work. Client name :-**Edited for Community Guidelines** Job :- **Edited for Community Guidelines**
Amit - was this an hourly job or a fixed rate job?