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bhcdesign
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Is it my haircut?

OK folks. I'm not seeing any action and I'm an 18 year veteran designer with a portfolio featuring clients like Starbucks and TAZO. Favor: Could someone take a look at my profile? I'd looove to get any tips on how to get this ball rolling. Thanks!

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That. Is. AWESOME! Thank you! Now can you do something about the 10 extra pounds I'm carrying? Seriously - much thanks:-)

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craiggabriel
Member

I don't see any problem at all. The profile looks very good. It's not my field, but I'm wondering if your hourly rate is, if anything, too low for all you bring to the table.

 

One quick thing to note though: You'll get in trouble if you don't delete the URLs to your websites. You're not allowed to have anything in your profile that enables someone to contact you other than through Upwork, and your websites have your contact info.

I just got pinged for it - fixing it as we speak. Thanks!

Mostly it is just a very competitive place, and you're in an especially competitive field. It takes time and patience and lots of rejection to get started.

 

That said, ageism is rampant in this society. If you have a picture of yourself clean-shaven it might not help but it probably wouldn't hurt.

 

 

I thought the beard was the best thing about the profile! Will take it into consideration - thanks for taking a look!

m_terrazas
Member

Hi Larry,

Good portfolio!
The only thing that seems to me that you should modify a bit is the presentation.
At first, I would remove the greeting and the phrase that says you are new to Upwork.
Instead, it would tell what you can offer the customer. What jobs do you do, what programs do you work with, etc ...
Not very long, it's my opinion.
Then, I would leave the information you already have about who and for whom you have worked.

It is assumed that when a client opens your proposal, he only sees the first two lines of your profile (it has been commented several times in the forums), so do not waste them ๐Ÿ™‚

Great suggestions. I was feeling a need to explain why I have no track record with Upwork - hence the being new thing. I can easily remove it. That it's the first couple of lines - is HUGE! Thanks for the heads up:-)

mtngigi
Member


@Larry w wrote:

OK folks. I'm not seeing any action and I'm an 18 year veteran designer with a portfolio featuring clients like Starbucks and TAZO. Favor: Could someone take a look at my profile? I'd looove to get any tips on how to get this ball rolling. Thanks!


1) What Maria said - lose "Hello and welcome! I'm new to Upwork" It's wasted space and where you should instead dive into what you can offer. Clients don't want to read long walls of text.

 

2) You need to remove the link to your website if there's a way to contact you via that site - that's against TOS and a big no-no.

 

3) There are a million other freelancers here who do what you do. There's no reason to expect things to happen quickly - online freelancing is not easy. You may get up and running quickly ... or it may take awhile.

 

4) Raise your rate considerably.

 

My 2ยข

 

 

Done and done!

 

Yeah - I'm so used to freelancing for agenices - they needed you yesterday. I'll exercise patience (and raise my rate:-)  Thanks!

jojomo
Member

Larry,

 

I guess I came a little late since your profile is now set to private but if you are relatively new to Upwork, I wouldn't expect too much right away... especially if your field of expertise is very competitive. 

 

Set your hourly rate to something reasonable (not too low as this may have a negative effect on your profile). Make sure you tailor your proposals according to the job you are applying for. Clients can usually tell right away if you are recycling applications (I'm not saying you are but just something to keep in mind). Keep it short, sweet and to the point. Always share some portfolio pieces that are relevant to the job you are applying for. Make sure your grammar and spelling is impeccable.

 

To get your foot in the door, start off with smaller projects in order to get feedback and then step it up slowly ๐Ÿ™‚

 

As for the beard, that doesn't bother me personally but it might put some clients off... I used to have facial piercings which I removed for my profile photo so they looked a little more pro.

 

Best of luck!

What to do about the beard? I've only had 20 years:-) I updated the shot to look like James Hetfield's step cousin.

 

Also rewrote the intro.

 

As for hourly$$ - still feeling my way around that one.

 

Thanks for taking a look!

Larry,

 

Regarding your hourly rate, it may be a good idea to check out what other freelancers charge in relation to what they offer? I'm a production layout artist and grapic designer and I have my rate set at $45/hour but I started much lower when I was new to the platform.

 

 

 

Just wanted to say you have a great beard! Please do not shave it. Seriously, after all, why you should??

Who said having a beard has something to do with freelance? Does it matter?

Okay, what about "if you look old then your potential clients think you have a lot of experience and consider you have strong and proven skillset, therefore they hire you. That's why having a beard is good for freelance". ๐Ÿ™‚


@Sergey A wrote:

 

Okay, what about "if you look old then your potential clients think you have a lot of experience and consider you have strong and proven skillset, therefore they hire you. That's why having a beard is good for freelance". ๐Ÿ™‚


I hope you're right, Sergey. I turned 60 a few days ago. But I haven't got a beard, and my Upwork photo was taken with a magic camera that makes me look 10 years younger!

I must say that "quirky" as the background is, it is distracting...

 

I played about in Photoshop a little, see if that might work better? (Didn't have time to do it "perfectly" but for as small as it is displayed on a profile it should be just fine, also gave your beard a bit of a tint.)

 

beard.jpg

 

(larger size attached below)

 

Petra's edit makes you look 15+ years younger than your old picture, for whatever that is worth.


@Charles K wrote:

Petra's edit makes you look 15+ years younger than your old picture, for whatever that is worth.


 Any excuse to not carry on with my translation and play with Photoshop instead ๐Ÿ˜‰

 


@Petra R wrote:

@Charles K wrote:

Petra's edit makes you look 15+ years younger than your old picture, for whatever that is worth.


 Any excuse to not carry on with my translation and play with Photoshop instead ๐Ÿ˜‰

 


 Next time you want an excuse not to translate, maybe you could remove the construction equipment from the background of my pic? I'd be happy to pay. It's fine as-is for here, but I'd like to use the same pic in different contexts and the truck doesn't sell everywhere, and I don't even know how to open a photo editing program, let alone use one.


@Tiffany S wrote:

@Petra R wrote:

@Charles K wrote:

Petra's edit makes you look 15+ years younger than your old picture, for whatever that is worth.


 Any excuse to not carry on with my translation and play with Photoshop instead ๐Ÿ˜‰

 


 Next time you want an excuse not to translate, maybe you could remove the construction equipment from the background of my pic? I'd be happy to pay. It's fine as-is for here, but I'd like to use the same pic in different contexts and the truck doesn't sell everywhere, and I don't even know how to open a photo editing program, let alone use one.


 I'd LOVE to, send it over via a pm, the bigger the file the better the result, and I'll play! I adore playing with Photoshop! Also give me an idea what kind of colour background you like

 


@Petra R wrote:

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I played about in Photoshop a little, see if that might work better?

 

beard.jpg

 

(larger size attached below)

 


 Petra your Photoshop skills are very good.

That. Is. AWESOME! Thank you! Now can you do something about the 10 extra pounds I'm carrying? Seriously - much thanks:-)


@Larry w wrote:

That. Is. AWESOME! Thank you! Now can you do something about the 10 extra pounds I'm carrying? Seriously - much thanks:-)


 Cut Carbs and get a dog.

And you're very welcome, it was much fun to do

 


@Larry w wrote:

That. Is. AWESOME! Thank you! Now can you do something about the 10 extra pounds I'm carrying? Seriously - much thanks:-)


 Now you are pushing your luck.  She gave you 15 years for free.  For those 10 you will have to work on your own.

Hi Larry,

Thanks for reaching out to us. In order to start bidding successfully and winning jobs on Upwork, please go through the guides, tutorials, courses, videos, Help articles and Community discussions compiled in this thread, designed to help new users get started on Upwork.  Afterwards, if you have any questions feel free to follow up in the Community and we'll gladly help you with them.

~ Bojan
Upwork

Thanks Bojan. Will do!

Larry, you might want to take those guides and such with a grain of salt. Recently, there was a discussion of those recommendations here in the forums, and most of the most successful freelancers posting here said some version of, "Yeah, that's not how I do it at all."

silw
Member

if i'd be looking to hire someone the first thing i wonder, and the reason I probably think there has to be something wrong:

"if this guy has worked for starbucks, why is his rate so extremely low?"

oh yeah. and a designer that is using a black/red gradient background fill? sorry mate no offense but..no sorry. thats like a vegan posting meat recipes.

Actually, Petra's touch up looks better than your own image.  And if you are in mood to criticize why don't you take a shot and create something awesome.

 

Remember those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones at other houses.

Ha! Right? Personally I donโ€™t care to much other than a momentary glance. When I hire subcontractors- thereโ€™s never been an age issue because I meet them in person. Also, your sensitive millennial vibe from your shot seems to kind of narrow your niche.

Upon reflection letโ€™s just put down our weapons and step away from the table. Also- pretty cool illustrations.


@Aron H wrote:

oh yeah. and a designer that is using a black/red gradient background fill? sorry mate no offense but..no sorry. thats like a vegan posting meat recipes.


 Aron, for starters I am not (and nor is the OP) and never pretended to be a designer. I spent some time (for free) offering some assistance to a fellow freelancer.

Whether you like it or not, it does "pop" in a sea of profiles.

It stands out.

You are free to not like it, and are free to spend some of your own valuable time to come up with something better.

I am sure the OP will be very grateful to you.

 

 


@Aron H wrote:

oh yeah. and a designer that is using a black/red gradient background fill? sorry mate no offense but..no sorry. thats like a vegan posting meat recipes.


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I thought Petra's work on Larry's picture was great - punchy. Now he just looks like a nice guy with a beard with a pink halo on the top of his head.

 

Thatโ€™s a good point. Iโ€™m still going back and forth on rate. Where I live- Seattle-I draw a good hourly but itโ€™s mostly on site. Still not up to speed on completely remote for hire.
raina5
Member

You're light years above me in talent and experience, but I think maybe for anyone it takes a while to get traction. I don't know about the niche you are in (I mean payscale/experience-wise), but it could be that there are less jobs in that higher eschelon, but, like I said I don't know. It is a numbers game in part though, so a lot to be said for just plugging away day after day until it takes off for you. Your portfolio speaks for itself, and, you must have good communication skills if you have worked successfully for all those clients. So, maybe enjoy the quiet spell while you have it? Lol, best of luck ๐Ÿ™‚

 Wow Kate - thanks for the kind words! 

 

Yeah - I'm a bit impatient. Trying to fill some holes in my client roster. Still trying to get a sense of the type of clientele Upwork appeals to. 

 

Best,

 

Larry

If your niche is anything like mine, you will find fewer but higher quality clients at the higher pay scale. I don't think ageism is an issue at.all.

 

Targeting might be. I work for clients who want someone with a little experience and a lot of sense. I don't compete with the "I'm so hip it hurts" freelancers. I work for clients who want someone who has seen more than one fad come and go. 

Regardless of skill, experience or talent, landing your first few clients can be difficult. I suggest focusing on pre-qualifying your leads. Don't apply to every job you can do. Instead, apply for gigs with every prospective client who fits your customer profile. Who usually likes you work and working with you? Look for similar clients here on Upwork. Find the people who get you and understand your value.