Re: JSS computation with additional feature

Neil P · May 13, 2019 05:37:34 PM

I just have an idea that might help on computing JSS. You may be aware that the thing I am about to suggest is being practiced by some other freelancing website. That is the token being merited to the freelancers and clients based on income/ expenditures they contributed to the site. This reserved tokens can be used to block negative feedback both by client and freelancers.

I think this addition to system is very logical and beneficial.

If the freelancer is working with two projects, one amounting $3000 and the other is $30. The timeline of deliveries here is very vulnerable. If the contract of $30 went not cool and client can easily file dispute with nothing really to worry but a very small amount of money in the contract? What is left for the freelancer here? 50% bad record for his JSS while he still works to deliver $3000 contract which by the way, can last for over a month or months to deliver even before he can offer his service to another potential client? I thinks this is something we are missing. These two contracts that the freelancer have should not be treated equally in terms of his JSS. They are not. One of these brings weight to the income, work and time both for the platform and freelancer.

Given the scenario that both work is over, the current system will still count them as two jobs. Good rating for the $3000 contract and bad rating for $30 contract, equals 50% on your JSS?

Isn't it logical to see that $3000 contract is about 100 x of that $30 contract? If the freelancer took so much time to deliver the $3000 contract, should it only fair to give it a little more merit than the lost $30 contract?

What do you think guys? I am not a newbie in the world of freelancing. I am just wondering if this is a thing to consider. Let me know your thought.

Kholleras I · May 13, 2019 05:45:48 PM

Something similar is already in place; long-term contracts (on which people tend to earn more) boost the JSS.

Neil P · May 13, 2019 05:50:00 PM

The problem is, long term contract is only applied on new milestones or hourly jobs. I don't think it applies to one time project with a fixed price contract? Does it?

Neil P · May 13, 2019 05:51:16 PM

That is what I am actually looking for. For a one time job with big amount? What kind of deal we have in that?

Petra R · May 13, 2019 09:31:28 PM

Another "Hey Upwork, please change your processes to benefit me based on my very specific circumstances" post...

Neil P · May 13, 2019 11:42:40 PM

Just thinking if the case is worth considering? It could be anybody's case.

I believe upwork do change for the better. Who doesn't like that?

I'm not sure if this matter has already appeared in other community thread. I would love to hear other's opinion.

Robert B · May 14, 2019 12:20:25 AM

Hey Neil,

Don't sweat the trolls. There seems to be a contingent of posters on here who are way more focused on chastising and patronizing fellow freelancers than they are on being helpful.

In my opinion you've raised a good point, I'm sure there are others who will agree or at least see it as a valid query.

Richard W · May 14, 2019 04:02:04 AM

Weighting the effect of jobs by their earnings has its pros and cons. Maybe the best option would be a nonlinear formula, so a $3000 job doesn't count for 100 times as much as a $30 job, but maybe 4 times as much.

Rene K · May 14, 2019 04:20:09 AM

Robert B wrote:

In my opinion you've raised a good point, I'm sure there are others who will agree or at least see it as a valid query.

And at the end, Upwork does what benefits the most Upwork. So yeah, express your ideas, as much as you want.

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Jennifer M · May 14, 2019 04:41:47 AM

Robert B wrote:
Hey Neil,

Don't sweat the trolls. There seems to be a contingent of posters on here who are way more focused on chastising and patronizing fellow freelancers than they are on being helpful.

In my opinion you've raised a good point, I'm sure there are others who will agree or at least see it as a valid query.

No, she's right. People don't seem to be able to see beyond their shortsighted pov, and it's always noobs too that scream the loudest.

What the OP fails to see is that it goes the other way too. If you get a bad rating on a project, you can take several short, small jobs to boost your score. It wouldn't be possible if things were dollar weighted, so there are advantages too.

But yeah, it's always "i'm not top rated yet so change everything to suit just me because my ideas are valid." Most times these ideas are terrible.