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malkuth_
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Landed a new Upwork job. What type of scam is this?

Hello fellow Upworkers,

 

So I landed a new job that was advertised as a creative writing for a comic book company, social media, posts, blogs etc.

Pretty much all over the place. They replied to me linking me to a Google Meet where I spoke to the so called Company Creator. 

I received a real website and the name is of the real owner of said Publishing company, I had a brief non Verbatim interview and got the Frellance Job.

 

So heers all the strange bits

They make me sign up to all kinds of Cloud storage sites

AMAZON AWS

GOOGLE CLOUD
LINODE

Microsoft 

ETC

 

The so called project manager just keeps on making me sign up to more things, then request screenshots and for me to share my email and login for the cloud site to add me to the Company.

 

I get this is most likely a scam, but what kind? What is the purpose of this? 

Has anyone had anything similar?

I signed up to a few things at first before realizing this, what is the best way to protect myself now?

 

Many thanks!!

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prestonhunter
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As other participants in this thread have pointed out, Upwork freelancers must communicate only using Upwork until an official contract is in place.

 

Setting that aside, this is a very interesting thread.

 

Rahel: Thank you for posting this report.

I have never seen this before.

 

I don't know quite what to make of it, and I don't think anybody else in this thread has offered an explanation yet.

 

Here are some quick thoughts:

You said that the job you applied to was for "creative writing."

 

Okay, let's think about that: Creative writing should come down you writing using whatever software you normally use, and you should then submit a file to the client. If I hired a talented writer, then all I care about is their writing. They are going to send me the finished written document.

 

If I hired Stephen King to write a 10-page short story, then he is going to write the story, and send it to me, and my team will do whatever it is we need to do with it. We are not going to ask Stephen King to create accounts on cloud storage sites.

 

So... that simply doesn't make any sense.

 

It seems like a "scheme" and not a job.

 

However, if YOU HAVE BEEN OFFICIALLY HIRED using an hourly contract, and you are logging all of your time and getting paid to create accounts on various sites, and you are not paying any money to do so, and you are not using your personal prime credentials, then I don't see how any harm could happen to you for working on this job.

 

But those are some important "ifs".

 

For the job to be harmless, you really would need to be NOT using credentials that can be tied back to you.

And of course, if you are NOT getting paid for every minute that you spend doing this, using an hourly contract, while using the desktop time-tracker, then you are working for free.

If your main question is: "What is the purpose of this?"

I don't know. But the "purpose" of a "scheme" is never to treat a freelancer fairly and pay that freelancer for legitimate work in a way that is rewarding to the freelancer in the end.

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bobafett999
Community Member

They would create a fraudulent website.  You are the owner of that account so you could get in to trouble

 

 

If it was me I would change the login credentials and delete the account.

sofia2008
Community Member

Communicating outside Upwork before a contract is in place is a violation of Terms of Service. Sticking to that basic rule can keep you safe from many scams.

Sophie:  You are correct, but these jobs 'pay' very good, and during these trying times people have deposited their basic instincts and common sense in a bank locker for safe keeping.

the-right-writer
Community Member

For future reference, you violated the Terms of Service for Upwork and can be permanently banned from the platform. Any communication off-platform before a contract is in place is breaking the rules and making it very, very easy to be a victim of a scam.

 

"They" didn't make you do anything. You would have never encountered this scam if you had not been off the platform.

 

"I get this is most likely a scam, but what kind? What is the purpose of this?

Has anyone had anything similar?"

 

The purpose is to steal your money. They will have you buy ID, software, or a plethora of other non-items in order to get paid. You are never going to get paid.

 

"I signed up to a few things at first before realizing this, what is the best way to protect myself now?"

 

Stop communicating with the scammer, stop violating the TOS, and start abiding by the rules, and you won't get scammed.

 

ericaandrews
Community Member

You didn't 'land a job' on Upwork because you didn't follow the rules.  You are not supposed to be 'interviewing' anywhere but OVER Upwork.  My suggestion is that you take the time to learn the rules of the platform, what you can and cannot do, and spend some time on the Upwork Readiness Test and the "New to Upwork" forums understanding how to use the platform correctly before 'bidding' on anything else and getting yourself scammed again.   All of these question you ask are already covered in the Upwork Terms of Service and the "New to Upwork" sections telling you what to avoid on the platform.  You shouldn't send in any more proposals or respond to anymore invites until you take the time to understand how to avoid the risks that exist on this platform.

All good tips! Except for the readiness test, which upwork found was too difficult for the newbies and therefore removed it as a requirement for rising talent. I guess people can still do it voluntarily, but who is going to, since they get nothing for it. 

prestonhunter
Community Member

As other participants in this thread have pointed out, Upwork freelancers must communicate only using Upwork until an official contract is in place.

 

Setting that aside, this is a very interesting thread.

 

Rahel: Thank you for posting this report.

I have never seen this before.

 

I don't know quite what to make of it, and I don't think anybody else in this thread has offered an explanation yet.

 

Here are some quick thoughts:

You said that the job you applied to was for "creative writing."

 

Okay, let's think about that: Creative writing should come down you writing using whatever software you normally use, and you should then submit a file to the client. If I hired a talented writer, then all I care about is their writing. They are going to send me the finished written document.

 

If I hired Stephen King to write a 10-page short story, then he is going to write the story, and send it to me, and my team will do whatever it is we need to do with it. We are not going to ask Stephen King to create accounts on cloud storage sites.

 

So... that simply doesn't make any sense.

 

It seems like a "scheme" and not a job.

 

However, if YOU HAVE BEEN OFFICIALLY HIRED using an hourly contract, and you are logging all of your time and getting paid to create accounts on various sites, and you are not paying any money to do so, and you are not using your personal prime credentials, then I don't see how any harm could happen to you for working on this job.

 

But those are some important "ifs".

 

For the job to be harmless, you really would need to be NOT using credentials that can be tied back to you.

And of course, if you are NOT getting paid for every minute that you spend doing this, using an hourly contract, while using the desktop time-tracker, then you are working for free.

If your main question is: "What is the purpose of this?"

I don't know. But the "purpose" of a "scheme" is never to treat a freelancer fairly and pay that freelancer for legitimate work in a way that is rewarding to the freelancer in the end.

Thanks for your reply Preston and also everyone else who took their time. ๐Ÿ™‚

 

Should have been a red flag yes! However luckily nothing I signed up for asked for any money so nothing lost except my time and sanity and all has been cancelled now. Guess being a freelancer often is very frustrating so that one gets so desperate in the hope for a job that common sense sometimes bybases you.

 

Thanks again everyone! ๐Ÿ™‚

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