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More and more I receive job offers direct in my message system. Today I have got an offer with a very rough description of the work and the first milestone had already been funded, without any conversation before. I have declined this job offer for several reasons. After that I could see the response to the client from Upwork in my own message system and the information for him that the milestone will be refunded. This all is very strange for me.

Moreover, after declining the offer the client came back and insisted because he regards me fitting perfectly. I feel uncomfortable with everything.

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lysis10
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I wouldn't have rejected it. I would have accepted and talked it out. Money in the bank without any selling is awesome! 

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@Jennifer M wrote:

I wouldn't have rejected it. I would have accepted and talked it out. Money in the bank without any selling is awesome! 


It wasn't a million, I was afraid that this was a fake-email. Since I have found all these messages from Upwork, even from workrooms, even declined offers at email-fake I am really scary. I have already reported about this in another thread where the freelancer complained that her account had been hacked. In another situation I would have discussed everything. It seems that both accounts have been mixed as I can read the response from Upwork to him. Moreover, when clients fund the milestone so quickly before having discussed the work it can happen that they come along with additional work suddenly (my experience before).


@Jennifer M wrote:

I wouldn't have rejected it. I would have accepted and talked it out. Money in the bank without any selling is awesome! 


 

Shouldn't the talking it out portion be done in the interview stage? If a contractor accepts a job offer, without knowing exactly what the requirements are and what the job consists of, and then finds out it's not for them, what happens? Does the contractor then close the contract? Do they ask the client to close the contract or does the contract just stay open? And wouldn't any of these situations affect the contractors JSS score?

Nah, accept and talk it over. Worst case scenario it doesn't work out and you close the contract. These are usually people who already know what they want, saw your rate, and just want it done 1, 2, 3. It's great!

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@Jennifer M wrote:

Nah, accept and talk it over. Worst case scenario it doesn't work out and you close the contract. These are usually people who already know what they want, saw your rate, and just want it done 1, 2, 3. It's great!


No, it was an unclear defined fixed price job below the amount of my hourly rate and the milestone for the work had already been funded. Uninteresting and too risky to accept this.

Of course it's totally up to you with stuff like this. I've done three of these and don't overthink it. I just think "Oh, no selling, you already want me to do the work and escrow is funded? Weeeeeee sweet!" lol

 

They are small jobs that the client just wants done without the hassle of all the other stuff.

colettelewis
Community Guru

I am getting all my invitations directed to my message system - grrrr. The same thing happened to me not so long ago. There is a thread on this that I now can't find. The milestone cannot be enforced and nothing happens unless you accept the job. IMHO it is up to the client and Upwork to sort out the financial arrangement if the client has jumped the gun and  if you don't accept the job.

 


**edited for Community Guidelines**

 

Unfortunately, although you used to be able to  block people from sending further invitations, this no longer seems to be the case. I declined a job, blocked the client, and lo and behold, despite this, he jumps up in my message system a few days later, reiterating his invitation. I have not had any feedback from the mods on this particular complaint.

 

Edited to add: My apologies to Valeria, my question was addressed, and I have now answered it - in mitigation, I have evil deadlines at the moment. 😞

 

 

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@Nichola L wrote:

I am getting all my invitations directed to my message system - grrrr. The same thing happened to me not so long ago. There is a thread on this that I now can't find. The milestone cannot be enforced and nothing happens unless you accept the job. IMHO it is up to the client and Upwork to sort out the financial arrangement if the client has jumped the gun and  if you don't accept the job.

 


**edited for Community Guidelines**

 

Unfortunately, although you used to be able to  block people from sending further invitations, this no longer seems to be the case. I declined a job, blocked the client, and lo and behold, despite this, he jumps up in my message system a few days later, reiterating his invitation. I have not had any feedback from the mods on this particular complaint.

 

 


Oh, the first line of your second paragraph will be massively edited soon by UW Woman Wink I feel like some guests who have not been invited by me linger in my message system.

kochubei_valeria
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Hi Margarete,

 

I am sorry you felt uncomfortable about the job offer. I would like to point out however, that you are able to discuss terms and rates with the client before accepting or declining the offer and making it to a contract. Sometimes it happens that clients are ready to skip the interview stage and send an offer with funded Escrow to a freelancer, but the freelancer still has an ability to negotiate and ask for different terms.

 

Also, I am not sure which messages between Upwork and client you are referring to. If you send me details in a private message I will e happy to check that for you.

~ Valeria
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@Valeria K wrote:

Hi Margarete,

 

I am sorry you felt uncomfortable about the job offer. I would like to point out however, that you are able to discuss terms and rates with the client before accepting or declining the offer and making it to a contract. Sometimes it happens that clients are ready to skip the interview stage and send an offer with funded Escrow to a freelancer, but the freelancer still has an ability to negotiate and ask for different terms.

 

Also, I am not sure which messages between Upwork and client you are referring to. If you send me details in a private message I will e happy to check that for you.


Valeria, mainly I have rejected because I was not sure if this is a trustable client. Moreover, it looks like something went wrong in the conversation. I could not see the description he refers to and the message system of the client and my message system were mixed. Upwork's information to him that I rejected the offer and that Escrow will be refunded was shown in my account as a message from myself. I have sent a private message to you with a screenshot to explain that. What I realized when I read this message to the client is that Upwork provided my full name in this message -  to a client whose offer I rejected. This is not ok and has to be changed!!! Each suspicious or bogus client can sent an offer to me and when I reject it he is rewarded with my full name.

Hi Margarete,

 

I understand your concerns about privacy and sharing your full name and decline reason with the client. I have shared your post as well as the screenshot you sent me with the team.

 

~ Valeria
Upwork
jessicasimko
Community Guru

I got an offer last week from a guy who didn't even post the job. He just did a search, found me and offered me the job without even a conversation first. It sort of freaked me out, but I talked to him first before accepting and I am well into the project now and he's an awesome client. I understand your fears - just talk first before accepting but yea...when its all on the up and up, this is a great way to get jobs!

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