Re: Lost my English - Fluent - Verified status

Nichola L · Oct 8, 2015 01:38:05 PM

I lost my 'verified' fluent English, as soon as I changed my status to native. Those who 'verified' me, are not native English speakers, so I guess I prefer to be an unverified native.

Stephen B · Oct 8, 2015 05:11:30 PM

Since this thread's been re-awoken, it seems timely to ask again for a specidic response to a moderator. Myself and Ela have asked numerous times for answers but have been ignored every time. So (and forgive me Ela for copying your own post, it was quicker than finding my own), could a mod please answer the questions:

Stephen B and I have asked similar questions in another thread last week (https://community.upwork.com/t5/Freelancers/Are-you-TOP-RATED-If-yes-how-or-if-not-why/td-p/120279/p... - we're not getting any answers there.

So I am going to ask again: which clients can verify my English skills?
Only native speakers? Any client I worked for?

The ones that hired me because my English skills are better than theirs (GER-ENG translations)?

That can't be right and seems a rather odd & unprofessional way of verifying language skills.
Hopefully third time's a charm...

Could a moderator please provide an answer to this repeat question?

The answers can't be that hard really, as we're asking about who within the Upwork system is asked to verify a freelancer's proficiency in English status; so surely someone working within Upwork knows the answer to that...

(Fourth time of asking now...)

Isabelle Anne A · Oct 9, 2015 02:00:40 AM

Plus, an update on this bug would be great.

Ela K · Oct 10, 2015 07:25:51 AM

I just detected this on my profile:

MASTERFUL??? Last time I checked I had selected 'native'.

So, do I now need some (potentially random) clients to verify my mother tongue as well?

We still don't know which clients can verify language levels - please see the repeat questions above.

Thanks.

Edit: I can't believe this - they have indeed axed native and replaced it with masterful - native is not an option in language settings anymore. Speechless.

Olga Q · Oct 10, 2015 07:32:24 AM

I get the same masterfull absurd for my NATIVE Portuguese language.

Natasa M · Oct 10, 2015 07:49:30 AM

The same thing here. I am masterful and open to offers.

EDIT: If you don't realize how bad this sentence above sounds and how bad it looks on the profile, I guess no amount of argument and logical reasoning can help.

Mastery implies expertise-being a native speaker does not mean being an expert.It means just that-being a native speaker.

The same way less than 10 hours means just that-less than 10 hours-not open to offers or available as needed.

Olga Q · Oct 10, 2015 08:24:09 AM

@Natasa M wrote:
The same thing here. I am masterful and open to offers.

EDIT: If you don't realize how bad this sentence above sounds and how bad it looks on the profile, I guess no amount of argument and logical reasoning can help.

Mastery implies expertise-being a native speaker does not mean being an expert.It means just that-being a native speaker.
The same way less than 10 hours means just that-less than 10 hours-not open to offers or available as needed.

And probably sending proposals...

Natacha R · Oct 10, 2015 10:48:46 AM

Masterful..

Natasa M · Oct 10, 2015 12:12:19 PM

"And probably sending proposals... "

LolI changed it to "less than 30 hours" not open to offers. it is so seriously embarrassing, really. I am contemplating going back to fluent

Ela K · Oct 10, 2015 02:36:45 PM

@Natasa M wrote:

The same thing here. I am masterful and open to offers.

Haha - Natasa I was going to post the same sentence!

As Michael has pointed out - can't wait for RFPs requesting a masterful *insert language* speaker...

Whatever **edited for Community Guidelines** that is supposed to mean.

Edit: Since I can now self-assess my mastery of the English language - can we take it up a notch and enable me to write my own reviews? And self-assess the mastery of my other skills, too?

That would tie in nicely with Michael's CS experience. In the future, when I receive a mediocre or bad rating I shall promise my client that I will be better in the future and work on improving my skills - and then ask them to revise their review. Or, to save everybody time, I could just write it myself!