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lakitel
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Albert B Member Since: Apr 11, 2016
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@Tiffany S wrote:

Agreed, Albert. However, I am assuming (and I haven't checked, so I could be wrong) that the Upwork contract includes a choice of law provision that is U.S.-based.


  Quite possibly, but at that point I'm a fish on dry land: I have no information on how legal cases are disputed between countries, although I'm assuming there's some level of appeal that can reach the international court, but that's pure speculation on my part. Even if there was, I don't know if many organizations or people would be willing to take it that far.

synergycontent
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Sonya L Member Since: Mar 26, 2016
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@Tiffany S wrote:

I am, Albert--or was. I haven't practiced in many years, but many of my long-term jobs involve ghostwriting for lawyers and writing legal education materials for both lawyers and those preparing for the bar exam, so my knowledge is pretty current.

 

That, of course, doesn't mean that I'm right about every legal issue. But, I have done recent extensive research and writing on the Uniform Commercial Code, so I'm pretty sure on this one.


 Yep. Because everyone on the Internet is a lawyer or a doctor..... Ghost writing for lawyers doesn't make you a lawyer or well versed in the finer points of a particular type of law. Just like writing about medicine doesn't make someone a doctor.

tlsanders
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Tiffany S Member Since: Jan 15, 2016
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@Sonya L wrote:

@Tiffany S wrote:

I am, Albert--or was. I haven't practiced in many years, but many of my long-term jobs involve ghostwriting for lawyers and writing legal education materials for both lawyers and those preparing for the bar exam, so my knowledge is pretty current.

 

That, of course, doesn't mean that I'm right about every legal issue. But, I have done recent extensive research and writing on the Uniform Commercial Code, so I'm pretty sure on this one.


 Yep. Because everyone on the Internet is a lawyer or a doctor..... Ghost writing for lawyers doesn't make you a lawyer or well versed in the finer points of a particular type of law. Just like writing about medicine doesn't make someone a doctor.


 No, it doesn't...but, my law degree and five years legal practice experience do.

 

Doesn't particularly matter to me whether or not some stranger in a forum believes it, though.

lisawerk
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Lisa W Member Since: Nov 14, 2015
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@Tiffany S wrote:

 

Your suspicion that legal professionals would be scratching their heads and haggling over this raises a ssupsicion in me that you are either not an attorney or not familiar with the American legal system.


 Who needs a court system anyway? We can get all our questions answered right here.

 

 

vladag
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Vladimir G Community Manager Member Since: Oct 31, 2014
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Hi Laura,

 

You can find more information about the Upwork's Opt-Out Fee here.

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@Laura I wrote:

In light of the new pricing, I'm curious if anyone knows what the opt out fee is that I have heard about?


There are different opt-out options, one of them:

  7. NON-CIRCUMVENTION

 

  1. 15% of the cost to the Client of the services to be performed in the Upwork Relationship during the Non-Circumvention Period, as estimated in good faith by the prospective Client

could be interesting for some of us...

 

jmccpa
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Joseph C Member Since: Jan 22, 2016
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It is the greater of the Options, including the first one at $2,500.

Joseph M. C. ,P.C., CPA/ABV
den003
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Denis K Member Since: Feb 10, 2017
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how to calculate an opt-out fee for a contract for let say 50$ being applied to a client which has paid once previously let say 50$ about 6 month ago?

 

petra_r
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Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
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@Denis K wrote:

how to calculate an opt-out fee for a contract for let say 50$ being applied to a client which has paid once previously let say 50$ about 6 month ago?

 


 $ 2500 (as that is the MINIMUM!)

den003
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Denis K Member Since: Feb 10, 2017
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Dear Petra, Thank you for your reply above and the explanation below.

Obviously any opt-out sum or amount wouldn't be less than 2500$

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