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Re: Poll: Hourly Vs. Fixed Price which do you prefer?

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Kathryn B Member Since: Jul 22, 2015
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I prefer fixed-price jobs, though hourly jobs are a bit more consistent in pay dates.  If you want to promote hourly, you'd likely be best to promote them on the client end I think.  Convince them that they are better off posting an hourly contract and then we'll have no choice if they all switch to that format.

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Kim F Member Since: Aug 26, 2015
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Convince them that they are better off posting an hourly contract and then we'll have no choice if they all switch to that format.

 

Yes we will. We can choose to work elsewhere.

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Tiffany S Member Since: Jan 15, 2016
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Convince them that they are better off posting an hourly contract and then we'll have no choice if they all switch to that format.


 I bid on hourly jobs all the time. I just include my fixed price terms in the body of the proposal.

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Jess C Member Since: Feb 18, 2015
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Hourly ONLY.

 

For design work, there is no way to tell how many revisions a client will want. Limiting the number of revisions up front is one way to deal, but if they want just one more little thing changed after that, it's an additional negotiation instead of just clocking back in and getting paid for the time. Scope creep is always an issue with design work, and while I'm VERY good at estimating how long the initial phase will take me, it's up to the client after that.

 

The tracker is very inobtrusive once you get used to the idea that you can't multi-task with non-work related stuff while on the clock (duh). And in design work, the client really enjoys seeing the evolution of their piece through my screenshots - it gives them a good sense of how it all comes together.

 

With the way Upwork is configured, working hourly is also the only way to guarantee that I'll get paid for all the hours I track. Fixed price is a scam in this regard, even with escrow. Too many loopholes and ways for clients to skinny out of paying up. No thanks. I will NEVER work fixed price.

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Lena E Community Manager Member Since: Apr 7, 2015
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Thanks everyone! This is great feedback and it does make sense that certain job categories would warrant a contract type over another. For those users who work on hourly contracts, is there anything you would change about the timetracker or aspects of the hourly work process?

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Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
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@Lena E wrote:

 For those users who work on hourly contracts, is there anything you would change about the timetracker or aspects of the hourly work process?


The security hold, especially with long term clients...

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Joseph C Member Since: Jan 22, 2016
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Hourly - strong preference.

 


Doing CPA services, there is no fair way to estimate time in response to a fixed price job. 

 

I have taken several in which the Client's data was such that it took 2-3X times what I contemplated.

 

Consequently, if I bid on a fixed price job, I put in a cushion and usually lose because of my high bid.

 

I have no issues with time tracker except one - a reminder if no activity in last several minute or two.  I have forgotten to put it in "Off" if I get a call while working.  Then I have to spend effort reducing the billed time.

Joseph M. C. ,P.C., CPA/ABV
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Shawna H Employee Member Since: Nov 29, 2016
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Hi Joseph C - while we don't have that exact reminder currently, if you don't know about it, we do have a reminder you can turn on while time tracking that asks if you're still working.  If you go to Settings -> Reminders, you can turn it on to ask you if you're still working on a specified activity or memo every x minutes. You can still use it even if you haven't entered in an activity or memo.

 

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Nichola L Member Since: Mar 13, 2015
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Fixed price only. Or hourly manual (have to completely trust the client for this). That tracker simply paralyzes me - end of.

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Jess C Member Since: Feb 18, 2015
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The tracker only counts increments from 10 minute marks around the hour, so if I log in at 2:05 and log out at 2:45 I might get paid for 30, 40 or 50 minutes depending on when the screenshots hit. I'd like to be able to start working when I want instead of having to wait until the clock hits a zero, and the same with turning it off.

 

I also hate the keystrokes thing. Not a good measure of work activity if one is doing research, for example, and has to read a long article and take paper notes on it.

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