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lenaellis
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Poll: Hourly Vs. Fixed Price which do you prefer?

Hey everyone!

 

We wanted to check in with our users to find out which job type they prefer hourly or fixed price, and why? 

If you prefer fixed-price, what would encourage you to work hourly?

If you work hourly, what would encourage you to work fixed-price jobs?

 

Thanks!

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@Kat C wrote:

Interesting...

 

I don't  struggle with the money end. Always good there.

 

It is the scope creep that has been a prior battle.

 

Not any more. Big lessons learned on that front.


 I am with Kat on this.

 

I have never not been paid for fixed price jobs;  even off-site jobs where there is no escrow protection. As far as scope creep goes, I have never had that problem because I always define the deliverable before I accept a contract.

 

Of course, there is always a first time for everything, but in my experience hourly paid jobs are far more trouble than they are worth.

Agreeing with Kat -

I used to do only fixed-price jobs, but lately I have begun working on hourly jobs.

 

The problem I have with fixed price jobs is that too many of them are rather low paying.

 

The problem I have with hourly jobs is that I feel the pressure to work faster (especially when the client is breathing down my neck) and sometimes some errors creep in.

 

When manual time is allowed, I prefer hourly jobs. That way I can do a final manual copyedit of a paper copy.

"Certa bonum certamen"


@Lena E wrote:

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 is there anything you would change about the timetracker or aspects of the hourly work process?


@ @Lena,

 

I have been vocal about this before. The timetracker is not functional for the purposes of tracking time, because though it measures in minutes, it only logs in segments of 10 minutes. I don't see the purpose of going through all that effort with the program, then handicapping it.

 

What is causes:

- You can't reasonably start when you want to, you have to wait on the 10 minute interval.

- You can't reasonably stop when you wnat to, you have to again wait on the 10 minute interval.

- Logging or not logging portions of 10 minute intervals is left to the discretion of the freelancer (or doodle while you wait on the end of the 10 minutes).

- Wasted time

- Robbed time (on both the freelancer and client end)

 

I would suggest - allow(ing) the timetracker to do what it was intended > track and log time in real minutes. Allow the client to be billed per minute and the freelancer the freedom to work, stop, and earn, per minute.

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elitegra
Member

Fixed price only, I even have Hourly set out of my searches, but have no problem if clients invite me and accept manually time. Anyway, the first thing I do is ask if client is ok changing to a flat rate.

 

I manage multiple jobs at a time and continually shift from one to another... I may forget to deal with the Tracker.

 

Also, for creative jobs, where sometimes you want to sit down only to think, try different ideas or do some research, some clients may think you are wasting the time.

 

If it's a non-creative, pepetitive task, I may accept Hourly.


@Wilson E wrote:

Fixed price only, I even have Hourly set out of my searches, but have no problem if clients invite me and accept manually time. Anyway, the first thing I do is ask if client is ok changing to a flat rate.

 

I manage multiple jobs at a time and continually shift from one to another... I may forget to deal with the Tracker.

 

Also, for creative jobs, where sometimes you want to sit down only to think, try different ideas or do some research, some clients may think you are wasting the time.

 

If it's a non-creative, pepetitive task, I may accept Hourly.


 

Ahh, so you're the reason I gotta put people in check with the switching of hourly to flat rate.  Pricing is different between the two, so I always gotta say "if you switch this, you get 0 revisions and what you get is what you get." lol What a pain. They usually switch it back to hourly.

It works for me and they switch 99.9% of the time to flat rate. I do offer many revisions and get great reviews because I effort to do a great job no matter what ๐Ÿ™‚ 


@Wilson E wrote:

It works for me and they switch 99.9% of the time to flat rate. I do offer many revisions and get great reviews because I effort to do a great job no matter what ๐Ÿ™‚ 


 Aww, that's cute. Yer so nice and you get good reviews too. 

Thanks, you have great reviews as well!


@Wilson E wrote:

Thanks, you have great reviews as well!


 They only do that cuz I think they think I'm cray and I'm not really sure how to take that but you know it works out well when they just wanna give you good reviews to avoid ur rage.

 

Just call me the godfather of upwork.

Setu nailed the problems w/ Time Tracker from  bunch of perspectives. It simply does not work for writing. I'd be interested to hear from some artists on this as you face the same 'creative time' angle writers do.


@Wilson E wrote:

Fixed price only, I even have Hourly set out of my searches


 You may want to reconsider that search filter. Whenever I see an hourly job of interest, I simply submit a bid with my fixed rate proposal in the body. I've been awarded several and never had any pushback on switching to fixed price.

Thanks for the good advice. I do that from time to time. 

feed_my_eyes
Member


Lena E wrote:

Hey everyone!

 

We wanted to check in with our users to find out which job type they prefer hourly or fixed price, and why? 

If you prefer fixed-price, what would encourage you to work hourly?

If you work hourly, what would encourage you to work fixed-price jobs?

 

Thanks!


I vastly prefer fixed price contracts. With hourly contracts, I hate the feeling that someone is looking over my shoulder; I also find it incredibly distracting to have to pause and explain what I'm doing every 10 minutes. Plus, with creative jobs, a lot of my time is spent thinking, doing drawings on my notepad, or just staring at a blank screen - so it looks like I'm not "working". The other disadvantage is that it can take twice as long to get paid for hourly work.

 

I also feel that hourly jobs are more difficult for me to win in terms of price. My hourly rate is quite high for Upwork, but due to my experience, I probably work a lot faster than the average freelancer. Therefore the hourly rate is largely meaningless - and probably a disadvantage to clients as well - but it's hard to make them understand that even though I'm charging $75/hour and others are charging $20/hour, the total price will probably end up being similar.

 

The only time that hourly contracts are an advantage occurs when a client wants to do loads of revisions; in these cases, it's better to log your hours instead of doing unlimited amounts of work for a flat rate.

 

Thanks for sharing your thoughts about this, Christine!

I would like to note that the thread is from 2-years ago. While the thread is old, this is still a good topic to discuss. Robot Happy

Hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend!


~ Avery
Upwork


Avery O wrote:

I would like to note that the thread is from 2-years ago. While the thread is old, this is still a good topic to discuss. Robot Happy


Ha! That's weird - it was showing as one of the topics on the first page of the freelancer message board.


Christine A wrote:

Avery O wrote:

I would like to note that the thread is from 2-years ago. While the thread is old, this is still a good topic to discuss. Robot Happy


Ha! That's weird - it was showing as one of the topics on the first page of the freelancer message board.


It's because of the way they changed the format, so yeah old threads look like they are brand new when you look at the top date because that date changes to the most recent post date. Hate it, but whataya gonna do? ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ


Christine A wrote:

Avery O wrote:

I would like to note that the thread is from 2-years ago. While the thread is old, this is still a good topic to discuss. Robot Happy


Ha! That's weird - it was showing as one of the topics on the first page of the freelancer message board.


That's because someone else resurrected the thread. I often wonder where people who resurrect old threads find them. I guess it's through a google search (most likely) or a forum search.