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Priced Connects Used on Archived Jobs should be reverted back to Freelancers

qaiser_tariq
Active Member
Qaisar T Member Since: Aug 15, 2016
1 of 11

I have a question or more of a suggestion that needs to be implemented.

Upwork has introduced that connects will be bought by freelancers and free connects are no longer available.

I think Connects used on the job on which clients did not hire even a single freelancer and they also did not close the job and Job is archived. Connects used on such Jobs should be reverted back to freelancers as there are clients who posts the jobs and disappears.

 

It will help all freelancers and also encourage them to apply on the Jobs posted by new clients Joining Upwork. It is also the hard earned money of freelancers if we are buying connects and applying on jobs and someone is hired on that job that is good. But for the fake jobs posted and for the jobs clients do no bother to close and also not hire any freelancer and those Jobs Connects should be reverted back to freelancers after appropriate time like when job is archived.

 

 

dzadza
Community Guru
Sanja D Member Since: Dec 18, 2013
2 of 11

with almost 95% (in my category)  projects that are never awarded to anyone, I think that paying for connects would make no sense if connects are returned. we will simply juggle the same 80 connects for months .

and I keep seeing "hard earned money" - I don't think being a freelancer is that hard. I mean - let's face it...most of us are sitting in front of the computer - it's not like we're working in a coal mine, or as firefighters, or...whatever. 

we're comfy,  we're our won bosses, we decide when to "go to work", we don't have a dress code, our lives are not in danger every time we're on the job. So - it's not that hard, IMO

feed_my_eyes
Community Guru
Christine A Member Since: May 4, 2016
3 of 11

Sanja D wrote:

 

and I keep seeing "hard earned money" - I don't think being a freelancer is that hard. I mean - let's face it...most of us are sitting in front of the computer - it's not like we're working in a coal mine, or as firefighters, or...whatever.


Ha! Well said, and so true. :-) 

florydev
Community Guru
Mark F Member Since: Jul 10, 2018
4 of 11

Qaisar T wrote:

I have a question or more of a suggestion that needs to be implemented.

Upwork has introduced that connects will be bought by freelancers and free connects are no longer available.

I think Connects used on the job on which clients did not hire even a single freelancer and they also did not close the job and Job is archived. Connects used on such Jobs should be reverted back to freelancers as there are clients who posts the jobs and disappears.

I do not agree.  The point of paid connects is to have them have a real cost to propose on a job and, as we all know, a good amount of jobs are never hired on Upwork, so that means there is no real cost at all.


 

It will help all freelancers and also encourage them to apply on the Jobs posted by new clients Joining Upwork. It is also the hard earned money of freelancers if we are buying connects and applying on jobs and someone is hired on that job that is good. But for the fake jobs posted and for the jobs clients do no bother to close and also not hire any freelancer and those Jobs Connects should be reverted back to freelancers after appropriate time like when job is archived.

 

 


I find this assumption that just because they don't hire on a job that the job is fake to be ridiculous.  Maybe they went somewhere else and found someone else?  Maybe they were turned off by the amount of unqualified proposers, maybe they changed their mind, maybe the hired off book.  In a perfect world they would close their project but ultimately they are still the client.

 

Regardless, you are like the 1 Milliontheth person to suggest this and Upwork has not done it yet.  I suspect they are not going to.  I think it would be better for all of you who think this way to consider the cost of connects as a business expense, use them wisely, but I would personally not use them sparingly.  If you cannot win enough work to justify the expense then Upwork is no longer the platform for you.

 

 

feed_my_eyes
Community Guru
Christine A Member Since: May 4, 2016
5 of 11

Qaisar T wrote:

I have a question or more of a suggestion that needs to be implemented.

Upwork has introduced that connects will be bought by freelancers and free connects are no longer available.

I think Connects used on the job on which clients did not hire even a single freelancer and they also did not close the job and Job is archived. Connects used on such Jobs should be reverted back to freelancers as there are clients who posts the jobs and disappears.

 

But for the fake jobs posted and for the jobs clients do no bother to close and also not hire any freelancer and those Jobs Connects should be reverted back to freelancers after appropriate time like when job is archived.


If you think that a job is fake, flag it and Upwork will remove it and refund your connects. Apart from that, I wouldn't hold my breath about Upwork implementing your suggestion, since - as Mark also pointed out - about a million other people have already been complaining about this every single day.

 

Look at it this way. Say you had to actually go out and get a job in the "real" world. If you're asked to go in for a job interview, you need to pay for petrol and parking, or fare for public transportation. If the company doesn't hire anyone, do you demand that they refund your money? If you take out an ad in a newspaper, do you demand your money back if nobody hires you? If you get promotional flyers or posters designed, can you get a refund if they don't result in new business? 

 

Part of running a business is that you need to invest time and money marketing that business. If you're not getting a good return on your investment, then the best advice is to change your strategy.

 

richard_wein
Community Guru
Richard W Member Since: Jun 22, 2017
6 of 11

If I had a connect for every post I see asking for connects to be refunded, I'd never need to buy any connects.

petra_r
Community Guru
Petra R Member Since: Aug 3, 2011
7 of 11

Richard W wrote:

If I had a connect for every post I see asking for connects to be refunded, I'd never need to buy any connects.


This one took it a step further and spammed it by PM as well

qaiser_tariq
Active Member
Qaisar T Member Since: Aug 15, 2016
8 of 11

Petra R wrote:

Richard W wrote:

If I had a connect for every post I see asking for connects to be refunded, I'd never need to buy any connects.


This one took it a step further and spammed it by PM as well


Well I just messaged you not any one else so its unfair to say i spammed it i think you took a step further by assuming that i spammed it

qaiser_tariq
Active Member
Qaisar T Member Since: Aug 15, 2016
9 of 11

Richard W wrote:

If I had a connect for every post I see asking for connects to be refunded, I'd never need to buy any connects.


haha Not askign or every post though. Point is there are people posting fake jobs and there should be a kind of check on that if Connects refund mechanism is not implemented. Specially after we are paying for these connects and at end we are realizing we have been applying on Fake Jobs

qaiser_tariq
Active Member
Qaisar T Member Since: Aug 15, 2016
10 of 11

Christine A wrote:

Qaisar T wrote:

I have a question or more of a suggestion that needs to be implemented.

Upwork has introduced that connects will be bought by freelancers and free connects are no longer available.

I think Connects used on the job on which clients did not hire even a single freelancer and they also did not close the job and Job is archived. Connects used on such Jobs should be reverted back to freelancers as there are clients who posts the jobs and disappears.

 

But for the fake jobs posted and for the jobs clients do no bother to close and also not hire any freelancer and those Jobs Connects should be reverted back to freelancers after appropriate time like when job is archived.


If you think that a job is fake, flag it and Upwork will remove it and refund your connects. Apart from that, I wouldn't hold my breath about Upwork implementing your suggestion, since - as Mark also pointed out - about a million other people have already been complaining about this every single day.

 

Look at it this way. Say you had to actually go out and get a job in the "real" world. If you're asked to go in for a job interview, you need to pay for petrol and parking, or fare for public transportation. If the company doesn't hire anyone, do you demand that they refund your money? If you take out an ad in a newspaper, do you demand your money back if nobody hires you? If you get promotional flyers or posters designed, can you get a refund if they don't result in new business? 

 

Part of running a business is that you need to invest time and money marketing that business. If you're not getting a good return on your investment, then the best advice is to change your strategy.

 


So Finally some one responed the way it should be responded. My whole point in posting this is like i see alot of clients have payments methods un-verified post 10 Jobs 0 Percent hire rate. So i am suggesting that Upwork should do something about these clients as well. They just post and disappears i mean just for misguiding other freelancers or to mimize competetion i dont know so its not dificult for the persons working on here like me i mean i am earning good and can pay for the connects but for beginners its very difficult to distiguish they just keep spending money and have no idea and at Upwork end nothing is done to prevent that?

or there is something i am un aware of ?

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