May 21, 2024 04:00:33 PM by Clark S
I didn't realize that Upwork is now requiring new freelancers to buy 100 Connects before sending their first proposal. Upwork updated their Understanding and Using Connects page around May 17, 2024. It says:
When you join Upwork, you need to either purchase 100 Connects or subscribe to our Freelancer Plus plan if you want to submit proposals. Once you choose one, we’ll give you a one-time bonus of 50 Connects to help get you started on Upwork.
I guess this will help reduce the number of new freelancers who can send proposals, but it also might eliminate some of the fraudsters who create new accounts just to collect 50 free Connects.
Any freelancer can still create a new account. To me, that means a lot of abandoned new accounts because many freelancers might choose to avoid spending $15.00 just to send their first proposal.
May 21, 2024 04:04:38 PM Edited May 21, 2024 04:11:59 PM by Mykola A
Yep, 100 connects or FLPlus. I think it is a great idea. One good of many stupid for last years. Many bots will be filtered with no effort. Also Upwork wil gain money from anyone registered (some freelancers never paid connects and used free only).
I hope Upwork finally found that site is dead and trying to reanimate it.
May 22, 2024 04:23:15 AM by Clark S
I think it's a good idea too. It should definitely reduce the number of fraudsters who throw away accounts once their 50 Connects are used up.
Now, if they would just bring back those skills tests.
May 22, 2024 04:37:27 AM by Anna T
Clark S wrote:I think it's a good idea too. It should definitely reduce the number of fraudsters who throw away accounts once their 50 Connects are used up.
Are they really fraudsters though? I ask that because fraudsters typically try to get something for nothing. But all I see here are a bunch of people trying desperately to get a job so they can actually earn a living, which is not something high on the list of fraudsters, as far as I know anyway.
I could be wrong, but my hunch is that this is going to go over like a lead balloon. I mean, Upwork will make money off it, but on the junk proposal end I don’t think it’s going to curtail much. Desperation for a job is a mindset that I don’t think $15 will cure. These new freelancers will be starting out with 150 connects instead of 50 so things may actually get worse for us. But, who knows, one can hope right?
May 22, 2024 04:51:15 AM Edited May 22, 2024 05:33:39 AM by Radia L
Fraud, as in 'not playing by the rules' I think.
The 'cost increase' makes the 'effort' to create multiple fake accounts more feasible, which results in the heightened risk of not being able to verify the account (to get paid). This in turn results in the increased effort to bring the clients outside when a fake account proposal is interviewed, hence the recent multiple scam prevention no circumvention warnings.
But I have a feeling that it's all in "the plan", since the beginning, since they opened the gate. They took it easy and slowly when lots of CLIENTS complained about the junk botted proposals, like if they know it before, that it will happen, where they wait until their data said "it's now the time to run the next plan".
@Clark I don't think they will bring back the skills test, or anything that could bring them to the previous situation (of happy-users in not-profiting marketplace).
May 22, 2024 10:30:07 AM by Anna T
I didn’t think of the fake accounts bringing clients outside the platform. Good point. With regard to “it’s now time to run the next plan”, I kind of differ in my opinion of that. I kind of think they’re just winging it with the milking until they can’t anymore — and I think that time is just about here. My guess is they’re after the newbies for now, then another round of milking freelancers to subsidize the mess from monetizing newbies. Who knows, maybe by that time there won’t be anyone left to monetize but themselves, lol.
May 23, 2024 04:57:51 PM Edited May 24, 2024 01:20:42 AM by Radia L
I'm thinking, if you already have a good hold of something (in this case, a great share of users in the freelance marketplace world), then you encounter a problem (you never profit), you'll think of a solution carefully and slowly rather than "milk everything while you can, and bail"... Especially when you have a group of optimist investors paying your bills.
Yes the users are milked, but they (Upwork) have contingency plans. That's what I think. "THE saturation point" (no more paying freelancers because all of them realized there are no more clients here, as a result of the past few years policy) I mentioned below, is a "checkpoint that must never be reached" in the plan 😊 I think some of you have "predicted" that Upwork will close down soon. This is the saturation point where I said they knew about it and they will make sure that it will never be reached (see paragraph 1).
So as always I'll say, users should realize who they are, know how the management look at them, and don't get caught in their (Upwork's) game.
May 22, 2024 06:56:43 AM by Clark S
Are they really fraudsters though?
I'm not sure if "fraudster" is the correct word.
I'm speaking specifically about persons who created Upwork profiles; got their 50 free Connects; burned through them; abandoned the account/profile; and immediately created another account/profile (with a throwaway email address); and got another batch of 50 free Connects. This cycle would continue--I guess--until the person grew tired of it or until they won a few jobs.
In my view, these people were getting something for nothing because they never paid for Connects, and never remained on the site long enough to get their monthly 10 free Connects.
I can understand how desperation could lead people to do this, so I'm not sure if "fraud" is the right word. "Unethical" and "improper" may be more fitting because Upwork does have policies against creating multiple accounts, and thousands of freelancers did this just to receive 50 free Connects.
May 22, 2024 08:30:48 AM by Anna T
Clark S wrote:Are they really fraudsters though?I'm not sure if "fraudster" is the correct word.
I know what you mean, and my apologies if it seemed I was playing semantics. My only point was that charging $15 for membership is not likely to change the desperate mindset, it just means bad actors have to change their game. Just like all the other happy hoopla with connects and boosts, they’re just bandaids that bring Upwork revenue but haven’t helped the platform so far.
May 22, 2024 10:15:34 AM by Clark S
No worries--I wasn't thinking of a play on semantics.
And, I agree--I don't think it will help much with the desperate mindset or deter a large band of bad actors. I think it could mostly impact newcomers who are unwilling (or unable) to part with $15.00, especially if they know beforehand that their chances of winning a job are slim to none.
May 21, 2024 04:35:16 PM by Radia L
Maybe they're approaching THE saturation point, and this is part of their contingency plans 😁
May 21, 2024 05:08:12 PM by Anna T
Radia L wrote:Maybe they're approaching THE saturation point, and this is part of their contingency plans 😁
GMTA!! Monetizing memberships now....I don't think we're there yet, but we're closer!
May 21, 2024 04:50:58 PM by Anne-Marie R
However, there are those like me who lost their job months ago and arying to get by on very little income. I have to literally budget the 15.00 as I have a family of 4 with bills to pay until I land a job. This forum was presented to me as a way to help with income utilizing my skills and recommended by a doctor who was just trying to help me. I will be patient and keep budgeting until I can prove my worth on this platform.
May 21, 2024 04:56:59 PM by Mykola A
In any case you will have to buy connects. 10 free monthly is a joke when the cost of an application is 30. Are you sure this is the best place where you can play for the money your family needs? The risks are high and there are no guarantees.
May 22, 2024 06:05:46 AM by David S
Sorry too hear about your real life job.
Wish I could help and will keep your profile in mind if I run across someone needing your services.
May 22, 2024 09:39:14 AM Edited May 22, 2024 09:41:04 AM by Jeanne H
This forum was presented to me as a way to help with income utilizing my skills and recommended by a doctor who was just trying to help me.
Yes, freelancing can be a way to add income, but unfortunately the people who recommended the platform haven't used it, or used it in the last two years. Even people with excellent skills have to send in sometimes dozens of proposals before finding a real job. As a freelancer, you have to pay for everything, including using the job platform.
If you have marketable skills, and you are good at vetting clients and jobs, you will have success. It can take time and money, but people still make money here, but it's not like it was before. Have a stellar profile and portfolio, and even better proposals, and you will succeed.
Mykola has a point. Because it costs to freelance, you should consider all of your options. If it's someone's last $15, it should not be spent on connects.
May 22, 2024 05:06:52 AM by Waqar Y
Hi,
I wanted to express my gratitude for the invaluable support and opportunities this platform provides. Unfortunately, at this time, I find myself facing financial constraints that prevent me from purchasing 100 connects or a subscription plan. Is there a way that I can get a project where I could contribute my skills and expertise?
May 22, 2024 06:36:48 AM by Andrea G
Hi Waqar,
You can still join and use Upwork without buying Connects. Setting up a Project Catalog project requires no Connects and your freelancer profile will still appear in search results so clients can invite you to jobs directly (which doesn’t require Connects) or send you an offer. To submit a proposal for a job, however, you will need to either: subscribe to our Freelancer Plus membership plan for $20 a month or purchase 100 Connects for $15 USD.
P.S. Here are some courses you may find helpful as you get started on Upwork. You can find these and more in the Upwork Academy:
Hope that helps!
May 28, 2024 04:52:46 AM by Khushbu G
How many project catalog approved? I didn't heard from anyone who's project catalog is approved from starting of May 🤔 Top rated, expert vetted freelancers project catalog are still pending...as mediator you can pass update to and team and vice versa.
May 22, 2024 06:02:22 AM by Musa M
That's rather interesting. Seems I chose just about the right time to open my account (last week) on Upwork, as I was able to send out some proposals without purchasing 100 connects in the previous few days.
Perhaps this change is yet to be launched worldwide, unsure. Either way, hoping I can land a few jobs with the connects I'm about to purchase soon!
May 22, 2024 01:23:53 PM by Mykola A
Where is UpworkGPT? Instead of creating stupid templated jobs\proposals it should be used to answer newbies for question "where is my 50 free connects?". Topics creating each 5 min. It will be solution. 😸
Jun 20, 2024 10:17:00 PM by Pragyan S
Here's a major issue that Upwork should consider-
Clients on Upwork posts jobs but don't hire anyone even after 7-8 days of jobs posting. Due to which our connects got wasted.
Atleast, there should be a time period if a client is not hiring someone then we should get our connects back. As its not easy to afford Upwork's connect.
What do all of you think?
Jun 21, 2024 07:24:08 AM by Clark S
Unfortunately, it doesn't matter what we think; the only thing that matters is what Upwork does.
For years now, Upwork has never returned Connects for slow-to-hire jobs or jobs that never hire. Connects are only returned if a job is canceled by the client before a contract is made, and if Upwork removes a job because they believe it violates the Terms of Service. This does not apply to expired or abandoned jobs.
Jun 22, 2024 10:53:24 PM by Mohammad Kazem H
Hello everyone,
I wanted to take a moment to express my gratitude for this wonderful platform that connects freelancers with clients from all around the world. It has been a few months since I joined Upwork, and although I haven't found a job yet, I remain optimistic and determined to achieve success.
To enhance my experience on Upwork, I have decided to upgrade my account to plus. This will grant me access to additional features such as more connects, the amazing Upwork chat pro, and much more.
While I understand the limitations of the connect system on Upwork, I would like to share some suggestions based on my own experience:
1. In order to help new freelancers compete with more experienced professionals, it would be beneficial to provide them with some extra perks, including a few free connections. This would enable them to send more bids and increase their chances of landing their first job, thus earning the trust of clients.
2. If possible, it would be great if Upwork could allocate fewer connections, let's say less than 5, for sending proposals for jobs that are valued at $15 or $20.
3. I have noticed that sometimes there is no activity or response from clients regarding my proposals. In such cases, it would be helpful if the connects could be returned to freelancers, allowing them to submit proposals for other jobs.
4. Upwork could consider offering free availability signs for a certain period, boosting new freelancer projects for an additional month, or even boosting freelancer profiles with a lower budget. These features would make it easier for clients to discover and engage with freelancers.
If anyone else has any suggestions or experiences that could benefit new freelancers like myself, please feel free to share them below. Upwork can then consider these ideas and make improvements that benefit everyone.
Thank you for taking the time to read this. I wish you all the best in your endeavors.