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Re: Suggestion: $20 Minimum for Fixed Jobs

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Michael John M Member Since: Jul 8, 2015
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I'm glad that Upwork policy is the same as Elance's $3 per hour minimum.

Upwork should continue and implement fixed job rates comparable to Elance.



The Fixed Job Minimum of Elance:

Job Posting Budget: Less than $500
Proposal Minimum: $20

Job Posting Budget: $500-$1,000
Proposal Minimum: $350

Job Posting Budget: $1,000-$5000
Proposal Minimum: $700

Job Posting Budget: $5,000-$10,000
Proposal Minimum: $3,500

Job Posting Budget: $10,000-more
Proposal Minimum: $7,000

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Aleksandra K Member Since: Mar 31, 2015
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Now I see why people are sad about the merger…

 

Good proposal, although I doubt it will be implemented.

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Susanne D Member Since: Mar 15, 2015
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Yes, it is one of the things that I also liked on Elance. Here - when I see $5-Jobs, I wonder who takes the time to write one of these lengthy proposals for it. $20 is just so, if the job itself looks decent. Mind, even on Elance you can work around it - but it keeps this type job to a lesser problem.

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Michael John M Member Since: Jul 8, 2015
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There are a lot of things that are good in Elance that can be retained.

 

For example, even though most jobs here seems to have a minimum of 2 bids, effectively cutting in half the bids compared to Elance.

 

I'm just glad that the Elance Connect system was implemented in Upwork, as it discourages spamming.

 

 

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Michael John M Member Since: Jul 8, 2015
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From Elance:

 

"Why do I lose points for bidding below budget?"

 

"The system is designed to encourage proposals within budget and differentiation based on quality. In general low-ball bidding leads to price erosion."

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Robert James R Member Since: Apr 17, 2015
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I want this but I also want to be assured I will be paid the amounts mentioned for a job well done Smiley Very Happy

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Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
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There are plenty of fixed-price jobs that are small and for which $20 would be too much. Nobody is forcing you to apply for them.

It DOES make sense to require only one connect to bid on a fixed-price job with a $20 budget.

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Michael John M Member Since: Jul 8, 2015
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@Preston

 

$20 is too much?

 

Are you saying that the Fiverr-like price erosion is normal at Upwork?

 

Elance has an anti-price erosion culture, which I hope carries over at Upwork.

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Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
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re: "$20 is too much?

 Are you saying that the Fiverr-like price erosion is normal at Upwork?"

 

Let me be very blunt. Fiverr is a joke.

Nobody wants Upwork to be like Fiverr.

 

But, yes, $20 is too much for some jobs.


I currently bill at $84/hour and I have to turn away a lot of people who want to pay me that much because I'm too busy. So I'm not a minimum-wage price eroder.


But there are some projects posted on Upwork that even I would do for less than $20.00.

 

So, yes, I think $20.00 is too much to pay for some jobs and I don't think that Upwork needs to set a $20.00 minimum for fixed-price contracts.

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Preston H Member Since: Nov 24, 2014
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re: "Elance has an anti-price erosion culture, which I hope carries over at Upwork."

 

I, too, would welcome that.

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