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Suggestion: Replace Top Rated with Levels

suznee
Community Guru
Suzanne N Member Since: Aug 15, 2012
61 of 82

Fergus,

 

Many of us agree with you on the minimum is set to low, please take a look at when it was introduced.

 

https://community.upwork.com/t5/Announcements/Top-Rated-freelancer-program-now-live/m-p/84536#U84536

 

And a poston the subject

 

https://community.upwork.com/t5/Freelancers/Top-Rated-Freelancer-Email/m-p/68581#M26724

 

And if you search the forum (the search here works very well unlike searching for jobs) for the same tops you will finded repeated posts in regards to the minimum is to low.

 

 

fergusm1970
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Fergus M Member Since: May 23, 2015
62 of 82

Interesting! So what would you suggest as an appropriate minimum to be a top-rated freelancer? I'm thinking maybe $10,000 earnings over the last 12 months, or an average of $1,000 in each of the three preceding months. Maybe not exactly those numbers, but in that ballpark or a bit higher. Personally, if I earned $1,000 in a month I would feel anything but top-rated. I'd feel starvation and mortgage default looming, but that's not quite the same thing.

If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.― George Orwell
suznee
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Suzanne N Member Since: Aug 15, 2012
63 of 82

@fergus M wrote:

Interesting! So what would you suggest as an appropriate minimum to be a top-rated freelancer? I'm thinking maybe $10,000 earnings over the last 12 months, or an average of $1,000 in each of the three preceding months. Maybe not exactly those numbers, but in that ballpark or a bit higher. Personally, if I earned $1,000 in a month I would feel anything but top-rated. I'd feel starvation and mortgage default looming, but that's not quite the same thing.


My opinion is that it should be $10,000 minimum. I also think that there should be a period of 3 months or more on Upwork before a newbie can have a Top Rated. (although perhaps that is what the program which was recently started will do) but I don't think someone who has had a few jobs that earned them a $1000 should have top rated status. 


Edited to add I was very supportive of the JS when it first came out, but over time I see it weighs to heavily on the private feedback. I believe other factors including the star system and feedback publically should be added into those stats. As it is now they have some magic formula that they say is secret that they use and it weighs heavily on if you have a 9-10 private feedback score. Anything below that you are going to watch your JS drop.

fergusm1970
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Fergus M Member Since: May 23, 2015
64 of 82

"My opinion is that it should be $10,000 minimum."

 

I'd be happy with that.

 

"I also think that there should be a period of 3 months or more on Upwork before a newbie can have a Top Rated. "

 

I agree with that too, although I think you'd need to waive it for Elance refugees; otherwise we're at a disadvantage through no fault of our own.

 

"I don't think someone who has had a few jobs that earned them a $1000 should have top rated status."

 

Or a lot of jobs that earned them $1,000. Obviously if they've picked up a few jobs that earned $1,000 each that would be different, as it would show the ability to consistently pick up good jobs!

If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.― George Orwell
suznee
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Suzanne N Member Since: Aug 15, 2012
65 of 82

Fergus,


When I mentioned newbies I was not referring to those coming from Elance (unless of course they are newbies on Elance) I was mainly referring to new people to Upwork.

 

Why should someone who had 1 job at $1000 be any different then someone who made it over several months. It should be set straight across the board. New people 3 months, and/or $10,000 

fergusm1970
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Fergus M Member Since: May 23, 2015
66 of 82

"Why should someone who had 1 job at $1000 be any different then someone who made it over several months."

 

Well exactly. On the other hand if someone had only done three or four jobs, but earned $1,000 plus on each of them, they might be worth looking at more closely.

If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.― George Orwell
suznee
Community Guru
Suzanne N Member Since: Aug 15, 2012
67 of 82

@fergus M wrote:

"Why should someone who had 1 job at $1000 be any different then someone who made it over several months."

 

Well exactly. On the other hand if someone had only done three or four jobs, but earned $1,000 plus on each of them, they might be worth looking at more closely.


I don't think exceptions should be made for rules. It then seems like favoritism. I think if programs, titles or rules or anything else are set up they should apply to everyone, not just those who fall into the general category. 

fergusm1970
Community Guru
Fergus M Member Since: May 23, 2015
68 of 82

"I don't think exceptions should be made for rules."
 

Oh, absolutely not. I was basically just chasing my own tail.

If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.― George Orwell
stephenbrightman
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Stephen B Member Since: Dec 4, 2012
69 of 82

@Valeria

 

"Note that some posts on this thread have been removed because they violated the Community Guidelines and valuesPlease, refrain from making disrespectful remarks about other members of the Community, Upwork staff and Upwork, Elance and oDesk brands" (My emphasis).

 

These are the T&Cs:

 

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Could you please tell us the part that forbids making disrespectful remarks about oDesk, Upwork and Elance brands? Because if you want to go back and remove every disrespectful remark about oDesk and Upwork over the last fw months, you'd nearly have a ghost forum. And what type of forum doesn't allow users to complain about the site they're on?

jsutherland
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Jean S Member Since: Oct 22, 2007
70 of 82

Thank you Stephen.

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