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Mariska P Member Since: Apr 27, 2015
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Is this group primarily for clients who don't want to spend a lot?

 

Is it because they have to commit to paying a lancer 30 hours a week? Is this why many of the clients don't want to hire writers at their published rates? 

 

Today I see a new job posted. In the ad it warns applicants to bid $3.33 or they won't be considered. Seriously? 

 

What makes this group any different than the regular job feed? Oh ya, it's because there are Talent Specialists assigned to tell you that your skills are a good fit and you're gonna be shortlisted. Forgot about that perk. 

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Pandora H Member Since: May 11, 2010
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Mariska P wrote:

Is this group primarily for clients who don't want to spend a lot?

 

Is it because they have to commit to paying a lancer 30 hours a week? Is this why many of the clients don't want to hire writers at their published rates? 

 

Today I see a new job posted. In the ad it warns applicants to bid $3.33 or they won't be considered. Seriously? 

 

What makes this group any different than the regular job feed? Oh ya, it's because there are Talent Specialists assigned to tell you that your skills are a good fit and you're gonna be shortlisted. Forgot about that perk. 


I belong to the Admin Support PTC. Never mind the logistics of the 30+ per week pay guranteee.

 

75% of the jobs posted in this group are probably not going to pay more then $7-10 per hour, and are marked Entry level, even though the job descriptions say otherwise.

 

To be fair, 30 hours a week at $36 an hour is a lot of money, but still. I'd rather work 15 hours a week at even $25, then work 30 at $7.

 

Oh, and the "shortlisting" process for these new groups needs a lot of tweaking, as I have learned the hard way.

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Mariska P Member Since: Apr 27, 2015
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Pandora H wrote:

Mariska P wrote:

Is this group primarily for clients who don't want to spend a lot?

 

Is it because they have to commit to paying a lancer 30 hours a week? Is this why many of the clients don't want to hire writers at their published rates? 

 

Today I see a new job posted. In the ad it warns applicants to bid $3.33 or they won't be considered. Seriously? 

 

What makes this group any different than the regular job feed? Oh ya, it's because there are Talent Specialists assigned to tell you that your skills are a good fit and you're gonna be shortlisted. Forgot about that perk. 


I belong to the Admin Support PTC. Never mind the logistics of the 30+ per week pay guranteee.

 

75% of the jobs posted in this group are probably not going to pay more then $7-10 per hour, and are marked Entry level, even though the job descriptions say otherwise.

Clients say 'entry level' to justify lowballing the experienced freelancers they're trying to hire. I wonder how that's working out for them? lol

 

I don't think any of the writing jobs I apply to even want to pay seven bucks an hour cuz my bids are well over that and I've never heard from any client once my proposal is taken over by the TS. 

 

To be fair, 30 hours a week at $36 an hour is a lot of money, but still. I'd rather work 15 hours a week at even $25, then work 30 at $7.

The latter would be my choice as well if I were offered it. 

 

Oh, and the "shortlisting" process for these new groups needs a lot of tweaking, as I have learned the hard way.

I've never gotten an interview with one client yet for any of these TB jobs. At least I can unload my useless connects, though! lol. 

 

Maybe Upwork should have a separate group for the clients who demand no one bid over $3.33. I have an idea for the name of the group but I'll surely be **edited for community guidelines** lol. 


 

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Ela K Member Since: Feb 9, 2015
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Pandora H wrote:
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75% of the jobs posted in this group are probably not going to pay more then $7-10 per hour, and are marked Entry level, even though the job descriptions say otherwise.

 

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When has entry level (on Upwork) ever meant anything but 'I want to pay as little as possible for a ton of work handled expertly'?

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Pandora H Member Since: May 11, 2010
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Ela K wrote


When has entry level (on Upwork) ever meant anything but 'I want to pay as little as possible for a ton of work handled expertly'?


Very true. And then these same clients wonder why their freelancer turnover rate is through the roof.

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Mariska P Member Since: Apr 27, 2015
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Ela K. wrote:

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When has entry level (on Upwork) ever meant anything but 'I want to pay as little as possible for a ton of work handled expertly'?




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Pandora H Member Since: May 11, 2010
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How does the Writers PTC work regarding pay? Is it hourly or fixed price? I ask because typically, writing jobs seem to be fixed price.

 

And on that note, how in the world (if this group is 30+ hours) does this translate for writing tasks?

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Mariska P Member Since: Apr 27, 2015
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Pandora H wrote:

How does the Writers PTC work regarding pay? Is it hourly or fixed price?

I've only seen hourly work and I suppose that's cuz they have to commit to 30 hours a week - but I could be wrong.

 

I ask because typically, writing jobs seem to be fixed price. 

I don't work on an hourly rate basis but I've seen jobs paying hourly  and my personal choice is to not work that way when writing articles. 

 

And on that note, how in the world (if this group is 30+ hours) does this translate for writing tasks?

I don't know and I suspect I'll never know if I don't want to work for $3.33 lol. 


 

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Bojana D Member Since: May 2, 2011
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Gonna butt in from the other sandbox but it's pretty much the same in the Design & Creative TC. I'm currently not available for full 30 hours but I was really excited when the initial description of the cloud was sent out, sounded like a great opportunity for when I'm back to the bidding phase. After few weeks of following the general trend of the jobs... Not so excited. 

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