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That's killing new freelancers!

chrisskyes
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Chris S Member Since: Jun 22, 2017
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Lachen, the reason why I believe your post has attached a bit of attention from other freelancers is this:

We all started out with no feedback, score or badges. We all had to work to get our first job, and continue to work to find more jobs.

Your post, whether you intended it to sound like that or not, implies that you believe we somehow got jobs through luck, or because we started earlier than you, therefore invalidating all the work and sacrifice that went into it all.

That's why people are taking it personally, and rather understandably, in my opinion.

inspire77
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Lahcen S Member Since: Jun 19, 2017
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@Chris S wrote:


That's why people are taking it personally, and rather understandably, in my opinion.


 They shouldn't take it personally. It's a discussion. I do respect every opinion here.

fitts_laurel
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Laurel F Member Since: Oct 21, 2016
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I know it's frustrating! We all dealt with the same thing.

Tip: Offer a super low price! People are willing to take a chance on a good deal. Then, you can get a few reviews. My first job was $8 an hour. I only got $7.20 once Upwork took its fee out, but once I had one, it was easier to get others.

reinierb
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Reinier B Member Since: Nov 3, 2015
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@Laurel F wrote:

I know it's frustrating! We all dealt with the same thing.

Tip: Offer a super low price! People are willing to take a chance on a good deal. Then, you can get a few reviews. My first job was $8 an hour. I only got $7.20 once Upwork took its fee out, but once I had one, it was easier to get others.


 And you will probably work at that right for the rest of your life, or at least for the rest of your stay here. **Edited for Community Guidelines**

niag
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Nia G Member Since: May 3, 2016
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While this arguably might help to get your first few jobs, it usually doesn't get you high-quality clients in the long term. Truly good clients see low prices and run. Understandably, to them, price is indicative of quality. In effect, while trying to win any ol' first job, a freelancer could be scaring away great clients. 

 

I'm sure that most experienced FL's would agree that it's better (and easier, in a way) to start out positioning themselves to win the better clients. Even with no experience here, it can be done. 

 

Lowering prices is not really a deal. It's just giving cheap client what they want. There's not a lot of room for growth there. 

 

alexander2007
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Roxanne A Member Since: Jun 23, 2017
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Ya, I just lowered my rate...but maybe I should go even lower. I havent had any results yet. I am getting discouraged. Maybe I need to change my resume around or something...but i worked so hard on that too.

tlsanders
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Tiffany S Member Since: Jan 15, 2016
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Roxanne, rather than lowering your rate, work on your profile. Your overview says almost nothing about the services you offer, and a reader has to work to get to that half sentence or so that indicates what field you're in. Clients do not care what your husband does, how you're moving your lives forward or why you've chosen to provide these services. They care what you have to offer them, and you haven't told them.

alexander2007
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Roxanne A Member Since: Jun 23, 2017
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Thanks! Your right. 

chrisskyes
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Chris S Member Since: Jun 22, 2017
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@Roxanne A wrote:

Ya, I just lowered my rate...but maybe I should go even lower. I havent had any results yet. I am getting discouraged. Maybe I need to change my resume around or something...but i worked so hard on that too.


For your first job, try getting a fixed rate job which doesn't have a super specific title. That way, even though you might have been paid less for it, nobody would know how much work you actually had to do.

Getting paid $5 for a random job which took an unknown amount of time to do looks a hell of a lot better than working for $5/hour.

I often propose fixed rate amounts to my clients after I've had a look at the project. This way they don't have to worry about overpaying, and I don't have to worry about constantly keeping track with the Upwork software. I deliver on time, for a previously discussed fee. That tends to make clients happier, especially if you're just starting out.

If it's your first job, offering to do a job for a flat fee might encourage a client who may or may not know how long you'd really need to do it.

Hope that helps!

wendy_writes
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Wendy C Member Since: Aug 24, 2015
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Laurel, Roxanne, and anyone else who thinks lowering your rate will get you a job > you are WRONG.

 

Buyers, just like all consumers, are smart and savvy enough to know that cheap does not equate to usable - and definitely does not equate to good.

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