Mar 6, 2020 08:20:15 AM by Quinn G
Mar 6, 2020 09:23:56 AM Edited Mar 6, 2020 09:24:35 AM by John K
Quinn G wrote:
The following is a blog post by Seth Godin:
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Upwork is trying to slip through a change in their terms of service (effective in four weeks) that will subject any client who hires a freelancer they found on their site to a fine of up to $50,000–per freelancer. That’s not good for either the freelancer or the client.
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For most freelancers, the hard part isn’t doing the work–it’s being tricked into believing that they have to be the lowest bidder to succeed
When they send everyone a notification about this by email, I would't call that "trying to slip through a change in their terms of service".
Also, is he saying it's hard to be "tricked into believing that they have to be the lowest bidder to succeed"? If so, then there shouldn't be many low bidding freelancers.
Mar 6, 2020 09:29:28 AM by Tiffany S
John K wrote:When they send everyone a notification about this by email, I would't call that "trying to slip through a change in their terms of service".
Did they? I didn't get one.
Mar 6, 2020 09:38:57 AM Edited Mar 6, 2020 09:47:39 AM by John K
Tiffany S wrote:
John K wrote:When they send everyone a notification about this by email, I would't call that "trying to slip through a change in their terms of service".
Did they? I didn't get one.
I got mine a lot later than many other freelancers. So perhaps it's still bouncing around or wasn't delivered to you for some reason, but I doubt it was intentional, unless they don't value you as a member, because it starts with the salutation, "Dear Valued Upwork Member"
Mar 6, 2020 09:50:37 AM by Petra R
Someone else trying to sell snake oil....
Typical tactic: Twist things around, tell a sensational half-truth, create fear, promise solution, sell a workshop.
Yawn.
Mar 6, 2020 10:00:42 AM by John K
Petra R wrote:Someone else trying to sell snake oil....
Typical tactic: Twist things around, tell a sensational half-truth, create fear, promise solution, sell a workshop.
Yawn.
Not everyone is diligent enough to google the original article, which has one less grammatical error than the version OP posted, by the way, so thank you for your due diligence.
Mar 6, 2020 10:55:04 AM by Amanda L
Petra R wrote:Someone else trying to sell snake oil....
Typical tactic: Twist things around, tell a sensational half-truth, create fear, promise solution, sell a workshop.
Yawn.
We got trouble. Right here in River City.
Mar 6, 2020 01:03:57 PM by Tonya P
Seth only writes long posts when he is pitching something. He's written several good books in the past but now the blog is more of a direct marketing space.
Mar 6, 2020 09:31:18 AM by Will L
Upwork must think it's losing a lot of money from freelancers on Upwork being hired away by clients without the clients compensating Upwork as provided for under the current terms of services.
Mar 6, 2020 09:42:13 AM by John K
Will L wrote:Upwork must think it's losing a lot of money from freelancers on Upwork being hired away by clients without the clients compensating Upwork as provided for under the current terms of services.
That may well be the case, but I doubt that changing the opt-out fee calculation would affect that significantly, unless paying the opt-out fee is common enough so that a net increase in the fee would increase revenue from that source. If anything, you'd think a fee increase would reduce compliance with the opt-out fee.
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